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Old Mar 22, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Ok so my 98 c5 had ls6 cnc heads and a small comp cam. Took it to the dyno for a base line and it made 330 at the wheel and 475 on the spray. Over the winter I put a set of AFR 225 heads, part # 1660 on and comp cam XER273 HR-14 in the car, ALSO a yank 3300 converter and a 3.42 gear. (before converter and gear were stock) Took the car to the same DYNO and had it tuned and now on the motor it makes 346 at the tire (small increase) and only 440 on the spray, lost 35hp at the tire on the dyno. Is the converter eating all the power up or what is the problem? I spent a lot of money on afr's and biger cam converter and gears and lost power? Any ideas on what the problem is, the spray is the same as last year, Also ran the car with converter locked and unlocked and only made a small difference so in my opinion the converter is working fine,
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IIRC, the extra gear will cause you to lose some HP on a dyno reading. 330RWHP and 346rwhp after for a H/C car seems extremely low as it is so you may have some tuning issues in general.
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I bet if you look at your dyno sheet you will find the torque went up.
And your SOP dyno will confirm the increase in power.
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also this is a Mustang Dynamometer
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I didn't know there were any shops in Jeff City. I'm comming out for the Callaway outage in a few weeks.
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Did you go with stock AFR 225 heads on a stock block 346? If so, IIRC, the 225s have 72cc chambers, so you're losing compression. Also the large port AFRs are best utilized on a stroker motor because the port velocity is lower than the 205s, and on a street driven (A/T) car should be pretty soft on low speed TQ. You need to swap heads, or have those milled, but they're still not optimal for your combo.
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Did you go with stock AFR 225 heads on a stock block 346? If so, IIRC, the 225s have 72cc chambers, so you're losing compression. Also the large port AFRs are best utilized on a stroker motor because the port velocity is lower than the 205s, and on a street driven (A/T) car should be pretty soft on low speed TQ. You need to swap heads, or have those milled, but they're still not optimal for your combo.
65cc chambers on the 1660 afr head, It is a stock bottom end 346 but with the 225's should be great on nos, I have the 180hp to the wheel set up on it and it only made 94hp at the wheel?
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Having a stall will make it hard to get a true dyno number
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PM or call Tony Mamo. He's the AFR guru.
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