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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 12:52 AM
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OK 3 short questions ???.......

1) Will a 3.42 gear set fit in a case that originally housed a 2.73 ?

2) If YES, how much labor is involved ?

3) If NO, how hard is it to find a case that will fit ?
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Originally Posted by sogysailor
OK 3 short questions ???.......

1) Will a 3.42 gear set fit in a case that originally housed a 2.73 ?

2) If YES, how much labor is involved ?

3) If NO, how hard is it to find a case that will fit ?
1) Yes

2) Quite a bit

To clarify your question, you should be asking if the 3.42 will fit on a 2.73 carrier and not in the case. All C5 cases (1 rib and 3 rib) are the same. The 2 series carrier is different than the 3 series carrier and 3.42 will not fit onto the 2 series carrier.
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Thanks for the reply......

Let me share my problem.
I now have a 2.73 in my A4 auto and I have a 3.42 that has some case damage courtesy of UPS. I was going to just have the entire 3.42 diff installed in my car. That is now not possible because of the case damage. As a plan B I'm thinking of using the case from my 2.73 to house the workings of the 3.42 . Now thinking along those lines would this be a good approach?
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Here is what I would do but I don't know if you have the special tools to do the job. I would use the 2.73 case but use ALL the parts out of the 3.42 diff. This means the side shims and pinion shims and the bearing races. After you have it assembled, check the wipe pattern and the backlash. If they look good, you should be good to go. If not, you need to have someone set up the rear for you since you would need the Kent Moore C5 diff shimming tool set. Good luck!
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Rick.....thanx for the information & replies. This gives me some options. I'll check with the shop that is going to do the work and see what the cost will be on a case swap. UPS has the diff now and a damage claim is in process. I'm not sure where UPS will go with the claim. From what I've been reading even with insurance they aren't too willing to accept responsibility for damages. If UPS denies coverage I think the seller/shipper and I will come to some arrangement.
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Originally Posted by sogysailor
OK 3 short questions ???.......

1) Will a 3.42 gear set fit in a case that originally housed a 2.73 ?
if you don't use a spacer or a "thick" gear... you may have problems with the VSS sensor giving erratic readings.
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Show pictures of the damage. It may be repairable.

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It looks like they dropped the diff out the back of the truck while driving down the fwy. Every side has dents ,scuffs. The mounting face took the worst hit. The face is bent and cracked,bent studs.

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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
if you don't use a spacer or a "thick" gear... you may have problems with the VSS sensor giving erratic readings.

Mike, Question ? ..... Ragtop just said the cases are the same. If I use ALL the 3.42 parts and just my 2.73 case what will case the erratic VSS readings ?
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The cases are the same, the the 3:42 gear only fits 3:15 and numerically higher gear carriers.just swap every thing over "check the contact patch and backlash". Just be sure every thing goes in the exact same way it came out
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Originally Posted by Bad Dog:semperfi
The cases are the same, the the 3:42 gear only fits 3:15 and numerically higher gear carriers.just swap every thing over "check the contact patch and backlash". Just be sure every thing goes in the exact same way it came out
I agree I did this with my DTE stage 4 when it cracked the ring and pinion gears. I just got a new case and swapped over all the hardened parts to the new case. I didn't even measure the backlash with a tool, I have done it before and I just felt it and knew it was about right. I would recommend you measure it though because I woudl have felt like an a$$ if it would have started whinning.
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Originally Posted by Bad Dog:semperfi
The cases are the same, the the 3:42 gear only fits 3:15 and numerically higher gear carriers.just swap every thing over "check the contact patch and backlash". Just be sure every thing goes in the exact same way it came out
the original question:
Will a 3.42 gear set fit in a case that originally housed a 2.73 ?
the 3 series case and the 2 series case are not the same
though the 2 series case will take any gears... even 4.10's. And of course... so will the 3 series case.

A problem can arrise when using the 2 series case with steeper gears where the reluctor wheel ends up being positioned further away from the VSS sensor. If it's too far - you'll get bad VSS pulse readings. The VSS sensor can't be relocated - as it is installed into a recess in the case casting. So the only option is to move the reluctor wheel. It's done with a spacer.

Contact DTE and verify all this info !

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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
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the 3 series case and the 2 series case are not the same
though the 2 series case will take any gears... even 4.10's.

A problem can arrise when using the 2 series case with steeper gears where the reluctor wheel ends up being positioned further away from the VSS sensor. If it's too far - you'll get bad VSS pulse readings. The VSS sensor can't be relocated - as it is installed into a recess in the case casting. So the only option is to move the reluctor wheel. It's done with a spacer.

Contact DTE and verify all this info !
I stand corrected. The parts will physically fit into the case but Mike Mercury is correct that speed sensor will be 3/8" away from the reluctor wheel.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 04:37 PM
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Mercury is right. Went down to my hangar and pulled out some old empty cases a 2 series and a 3 series.If you are looking for that it's easy to see, but if you are not looking for that it could get by you. Thanx Mike
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