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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 05:06 AM
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Default car bugs down when active handling is on

Car is 02 Coupe.

If you leave the active handling on and give it some pedal at highway speed the car bugs down, the active light comes one, and the car will not accelerate.
If you do the same thing with the ASR off, the car takes of just fine.

The car is stock, so there is no way it is actually making the wheels spin at highway speed. Also with the active handling off it dosent spin the wheels at all.


What is the problem here?

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Most likely, incorrect tire sizing.

Can you verify the actual tire sizes (f and r) that are on the car?

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Originally Posted by Y2Kvert4me
Most likely, incorrect tire sizing.

Can you verify the actual tire sizes (f and r) that are on the car?

Good point!I will check tonight.
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Old Apr 14, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Pull your codes too while you are checking please.
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Something is making the EBTCM "THINK" that the rear wheels are spinning faster than the front wheels. The tire size check recommendation is very good. So is checking the DTC's

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Something is making the EBTCM "THINK" that the rear wheels are spinning faster than the front wheels. The tire size check recommendation is very good. So is checking the DTC's

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Tire size is wrong. Car has C6 wheels, and the rubber on there is too small.

I will pull the codes to make sure this saturday.

Its possible to correct for this in the PCM right?
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Originally Posted by Lars87
Tire size is wrong. Car has C6 wheels, and the rubber on there is too small.

I will pull the codes to make sure this saturday.

Its possible to correct for this in the PCM right?
C6 wheels/tires wouldn't present this issue.

Please post the actual tire sizes (ie 245/40/18 front, 285/35/19 rear), and if one (or both) of what you have are of wrong size, we could suggest the best solution. You may not have to replace them all.

And no, this issue cannot be corrected with tuning software...Sizing tires properly, or shutting off TC are the only two ways to fix it.

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The calcuations that allow your EBTCM to preform Antilock, and Active Handling are preformed in the EBTCM. There are ZERO interfaces that can program or change the EBTCM. If you have the wrong size tires (ratio front to rear) you either going to need to run with AH/TC off or get different tires.

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rear tires are 275/30 ZR19
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Originally Posted by Lars87
rear tires are 275/30 ZR19
What's on the front?

That size is a bit short for the rear. (I'm running that size on the front in fact).
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Originally Posted by y2kvert4me
what's on the front?

That size is a bit short for the rear. (i'm running that size on the front in fact).
245/40 18
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7
With those tire sizes in combination you are pretty much asking for AH/TC problems. Generally accepted rule is that the rear tire overall diameter should be at least 1/2 inch taller than the front overall tire diameter.

Your front is about 25.7 inches and your rear is about 25.6. Not a combination to run unless you want to turn off AH/TC every time you start the car.
Perfect, sounds like the problem is pretty clear now.

Wouldt it be ok to just change the size on the rear for something with near stock diameter, and leave the fronts.
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