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Old May 11, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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Recently while making a decent pull I had the a/c on. After slowing down, I noticed a rattle coming from the compressor. Now it still blows air, not cold since it needs to be charged.

But when on it make this rattling noise. Could this be just the Clutch on the compressor? Since the compressor still works? I was hoping to just order the clutch and a new belt to see if that fixes the issue and then have the a/c charged.

Any suggestions on if I should try the clutch/belt first ,since from what I can tell the AC will be a PITA to replace

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Check the tensioner. Just went through this with my daughter's Jeep. Thought the compressor was bad but it was the tensioner.
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Check the tensioner. Just went through this with my daughter's Jeep. Thought the compressor was bad but it was the tensioner.
Good call, I thought about that alot while researching out the AC clutch actually works, and the noise doesnt happen until the clutch is ingaged. Which means the AC idler and TEnsioner are good since it does not make noise when the clutch is not engaged.

Gonna buy a Mechanic Stethoscope, in a day or so and cut it on to see if I can hear this noise coming from the actual Compressor, if not. Then I would guess the clutch is shot and will replace it.

But keep the ideas coming, and Thanks Vettenuts
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If the compressor rattles, it probably came apart inside and you are hearing the spit bearings rattle around further destroying themselves.
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Which means the AC idler and TEnsioner are good since it does not make noise when the clutch is not engaged.
I wouldn't bet the farm on that......
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Old May 12, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Recently while making a decent pull I had the a/c on. After slowing down, I noticed a rattle coming from the compressor. Now it still blows air, not cold since it needs to be charged.
Josh,

Normally if the a/c charge is low the compressor won't engage. Did you have this rattle when the a/c was working proper? If not, I would suggest getting the system properly charged to make sure the noise isn't caused by a low chraged system making the compressor engage and disengage to fast causing the noise.
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Originally Posted by Leukic
Any suggestions on if I should try the clutch/belt first ,since from what I can tell the AC will be a PITA to replace
You need to remove the A/C compressor anyhow, before the compressor clutch can be replaced. Special tools are also needed to R&R the clutch.

It might be wise to think about buying a new or re-manufactured unit, if either the clutch or compressor is bad.
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Just to note further, the Jeep made a rattling sound at idle when the clutch was engaged. I would have sworn it was the compressor, but the tensioner spring was weak and the additional load of the compressor engaged and rotating was making the tensioner bounce around and make the noise. Stethoscope indications were the compressor as well (noise travels well in aluminum) and since the tensioner was very hard to see, it initially escaped detection.
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Originally Posted by Eric D
Josh,

Normally if the a/c charge is low the compressor won't engage. Did you have this rattle when the a/c was working proper? If not, I would suggest getting the system properly charged to make sure the noise isn't caused by a low chraged system making the compressor engage and disengage to fast causing the noise.
I also thought about that, but I am just trying the cheapest to most expensive route haha. I am gonna do the Stethoscope first and if I cant tell I will spend the 40 bucks or whatever to see if getting it charged works.

But under normal driving it wasnt making this noise, It was only after a decent pull to around 5500 with it on, then it started.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Just to note further, the Jeep made a rattling sound at idle when the clutch was engaged. I would have sworn it was the compressor, but the tensioner spring was weak and the additional load of the compressor engaged and rotating was making the tensioner bounce around and make the noise. Stethoscope indications were the compressor as well (noise travels well in aluminum) and since the tensioner was very hard to see, it initially escaped detection.
How would you actually test the idler or tensioner pulley for the AC to see if they are bad? Take the AC belt off and if they are loose or wobble?
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if it rattles with the ac on its the compressor. if it rattles with the ac off its the clutch bearing. if it rattles no matter what, its probably a pulley. i just replaced my compressor due to a clutch bearing failure a couple weeks ago.
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Will an AC compressor from a 2000 Trans am fit a C5?
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How would you actually test the idler or tensioner pulley for the AC to see if they are bad? Take the AC belt off and if they are loose or wobble?
Let the car idle with A/C running. When the clutch engages, watch the tensioner on the A/C belt. It will be hard to see because it is tucked in there pretty good. Based on your posts, I am not sure you have isolated the problem yet.
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No I haven't gotten around to even messing with it the past couple days. Works busy.

But I will be digging into it this weekend.
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