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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Thank you for the info Eric. The vibration is still there past 2000rpm but its not as bad. If the flywheel and balancer are balanced to the crank its self, what would be the solution for this problem? Will i have to pull the whole motor and have it all balanced at a machine shop?
If the issue is the engine, it can be corrected in the vehicle. What has me a little concerned is your comment earlier that the whole car vibrates. What mods does this car have from stock?
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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It has an intake and exhaust, that is what i was told and all that i can see. It feels like its more than i few ounces out of balance, what ever it is.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 07:37 PM
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It would be worth putting your car up on a hoist and checking the exhaust system to see if it is contacting the body someplace. Check the engine and transmission mounts to see if they have been replaced with junk after market units or if one of them has gone bad.

A first order imbalance will show up in the shifter, not so much anyplace else unless something is causing a powertrain ground out to the body.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Ok Thank you for the help. I do feel it in the shifter too. The next thing I was going to check was the mounts.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 10:34 PM
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If the problem did not exist prior to the clutch swap but surfaced afterward, something in the work performed is likely the culprit.

What pressure plate/flywheel did you install? Did you take it to a shop and have it checked before you installed it?

I bought a flywheel from one manufacturer and a pressure plate from another manufacturer and both were suppose to have been zero balanced, but they weren't. I had them zero balanced together and no vibration issues.

Also, there is a possibility the pilot bearing got bunged up.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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I installed an OEM unit from LUK.

Unfortunatelly, prior installation, i did not have the unit balanced at a shop. I should have done that....

Ussually those units should be ballanced from the factory. As you can see on the FW picture a few posts above, there are some balancing holes in the FW - So i thought it was balanced.

Next time i will know better!

I have a M12 here, ready for installation. As soon as the FW/PP/Clutch is out of the car, i will bring it to a shop for balancing. You guys will be the first to know if that solved the problem.

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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jochen
I have a M12 here, ready for installation. As soon as the FW/PP/Clutch is out of the car, i will bring it to a shop for balancing. You guys will be the first to know if that solved the problem.

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Do you have the original flywheel yet? If yes, did you check it for balance weights in one or more of the through holes shown in the above photos?

The flywheel may be balanced but you maybe missing the original added weights used to account for minor engine internal imbalances.

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Yes, i still have the original Flywheel. I will check if there are any weights....
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I presume that the original bolts were used on the new pressure plate, but if not, using bolts that do not have a short section of unthreaded shank or smooth shoulder where they go through the pressure plate can allow the pressure plate to be very slightly off center, causing a vibration.

And, of course, the pressure plate itself could be out.

Ideally the flywheel/ presure plate should be balanced together, but few do that.
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I presume that the original bolts were used on the new pressure plate, but if not, using bolts that do not have a short section of unthreaded shank or smooth shoulder where they go through the pressure plate can allow the pressure plate to be very slightly off center, causing a vibration.

And, of course, the pressure plate itself could be out.

Ideally the flywheel/ presure plate should be balanced together, but few do that.
The pressure plate is centered on two dowel pins, not the bolts. If the pressure plate and flywheel are balanced as an assembly, the pressure plate needs to be indexed to the flywheel so the same orientation is maintained as when balanced during the installation to the engine.
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