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Old May 17, 2010 | 09:52 AM
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I just purchased a brand new master & slave and installed it. Then bled the system and the clutch pedal is still on the floor. What could have been done wrong?
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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How you bled it? How you installed it?? The parts you used??
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How you bled it? How you installed it?? The parts you used??
I tried bleeding it by popping the clutch pedal up and stomping the clutch pedal to the floor a few times as well as regularly pumping the clutch pedal. The clutch pedal just sits on the floor and when I pop it up and touch the pedal it just falls to the floor. That part is a new OEM master and new OEM slave.
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Old May 17, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Bleeding this system is tricky, did you add a remote bleeder?
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Bleeding this system is tricky, did you add a remote bleeder?
No, I didn't add a remote bleeder
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Old May 17, 2010 | 11:45 AM
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No, I didn't add a remote bleeder
So how are you allowing the air to leave the system? Without a remote bleeder, this is a two person job......you do know you have to get the air out, right?
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So how are you allowing the air to leave the system? Without a remote bleeder, this is a two person job......you do know you have to get the air out, right?
I have someone else underneath the car and I'm doing the clutch pedal pumping.
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Originally Posted by All_Motor_C5LS6
I have someone else underneath the car and I'm doing the clutch pedal pumping.
and you are doing the following:

1) starting out with a full reservoir
2) after pumping, holding the pedal to the floor, then the bleeder is cracked...then closed. You never allow the pedal to come off the floor, until the bleeder is closed again.

Please explain the steps in detail. Stating that you are "stomping" the pedal to the floor, gives one the impression you don't know what you are doing.
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As much as they complain about tired legs during this, I rather the helper do the pumping and checking the master resovoir while I do the bleeding. This way I can ensure it is being opened and shut correctly as to not reintroduce air back into the system. I have the pumper(friend, old lady) pump about 15 times and hold the last pump about 3/4 the wayt to the floor. Then I crack the bleeder open and shut pretty quick. You may just see nothing coming out ( air) or some fluid coming out. Even after fluid is coming out of the bleeder, I continue about another 5 bleeds to ensure an airfree system. In all honesty, it takes around an hour of bleeding and 2 pints of dot4 fluid. After you get your clutch back, a periodic inspection of fluid in the resovoir is all you need. If it is not clear anymore, use a turkey baster and remove old and replace with new in the resovoir.. Good luck and when you are about to give up, you are almost there. Motto works for me most of the time
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
and you are doing the following:

1) starting out with a full reservoir
2) after pumping, holding the pedal to the floor, then the bleeder is cracked...then closed. You never allow the pedal to come off the floor, until the bleeder is closed again.

Please explain the steps in detail. Stating that you are "stomping" the pedal to the floor, gives one the impression you don't know what you are doing.
We are doing everything you described above. I'm doing the pumping and I have my buddy, whom has worked on C5s and C6s for quite sometime now on the floor working the bleeder valve. Yes, we started out with a full reservoir, then the fluid came down a bit as we were bleeding and we added more fluid. We probably spent about 10-15minutes bleeding the system and the pedal was still on the ground. The clutch is staying engaged and will not disengage. He believes there is still air in the line.

Should we have bench bled the master before putting it in?

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Why would you go through the trouble (and cost) of installing a new slave and not add a remote bleeder??? With one, you could just use a Motive power bleeder or Mityvac and bleed the system without having to touch the pedal.

I have bled clutch systems with both new master and slaves. It will take at least an hour. Try to get two helpers. One to pump the pedal and one to add fluid while you open and close the bleeder screw. It'll go faster that way since one of you won't have to stop and add more fluid constantly.
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Maybe this will help:
http://97vette.com/howto/clutchbleed/index.html
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