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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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Does anybody have input about LS2 402 stroker set up, it should be better than LS383 Stroker????????
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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Depends on your use?

Normally more cubes the better. But if you want to run 7500 rpms then maybe the 383
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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402 stroker here, tf2 225 heads, 102mm lsxr, and a big cam...
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Old Jun 19, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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My 402 info is detailed in my signature. I've never had a 383, but the 402 has gobs of torque on the bottom end, I would imagine much more than a 383.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Difference is that the 402 has a bigger bore 4.00" vs. 3.90" which unshrouds the cylinder valve for more flow which will equal more power, also there will be less piston side load therefore less wear. Down side
more cost need LS2 block,knock and cam sensor extention harness,LS2 front timing cover with cam sensor, and engine valley cover for conversion.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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The current rage is to start your stroker build with a LS3 block.
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Old Jun 20, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Champion Motors
Difference is that the 402 has a bigger bore 4.00" vs. 3.90" which unshrouds the cylinder valve for more flow which will equal more power, also there will be less piston side load therefore less wear. Down side
more cost need LS2 block,knock and cam sensor extention harness,LS2 front timing cover with cam sensor, and engine valley cover for conversion.
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If you have the extra cash. The LS3 block is the way to go. With the LS3 block you will have 416 cubic inches instead of 383 with the same 4.00 inch stroker crank. Plus you will be able to use the better breathing LS3 heads that you can't use on the LS1 block with a stock bore.

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I have the 402. 100 less rwhp than my sc LS6, but faster at the track. Low end torque is where it is at!
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I have the 402. 100 less rwhp than my sc LS6, but faster at the track. Low end torque is where it is at!
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I like this thread and correct me if Im wrong.

with the 402 LS2 stroker, you can reuse your 90/90 set up, AFR 205 heads ( with a little touch up for your CC), and oil pan. You cant do that with the LS3.

That's a $2000 savings if you go short block build

Id like to do a forged LS2 stroker, but dont know where to turn on it

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YES Phil

LS3s well, those take special care and really need a dry sump oiling sysrtem for best results.

Phil Your in Tampa?

Isn't there is a great LS engine builder right there in your area?

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL
YES Phil

LS3s well, those take special care and really need a dry sump oiling sysrtem for best results.

Phil Your in Tampa?

Isn't there is a great LS engine builder right there in your area?
Who

Ive got a million questions.

Which system need a dry sump?
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
Who

Ive got a million questions.

Which system need a dry sump?
I know a really good engine builder but he charges $1.00 per question.
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Old Jun 22, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
Who

Ive got a million questions.

Which system need a dry sump?
Phil Give me a day or two. I need to send a few emails out to race friends that live in the Tampa Sebring area to get the guys name and location.

But my understanding he has been building SBC / LS race motors for years.

Any real high performance use engine should have a dry sump oiling system. We have just seen quite a few LS3s on road course go boom without the dry sump.

Road course / road race engines are run at 3,000 to redline for long periods at a time, 20 min to an hour + . So the need for oiling and cooling is very important.

ARE dry sump is very good. A Daily dry sump is the best

and that will be $5 to my paypal

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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
I like this thread and correct me if Im wrong.

with the 402 LS2 stroker, you can reuse your 90/90 set up, AFR 205 heads ( with a little touch up for your CC), and oil pan. You cant do that with the LS3.

That's a $2000 savings if you go short block build

Id like to do a forged LS2 stroker, but dont know where to turn on it

LS2 and LS3 use the same components, only difference bigger bore. 4.065" instead of 4.00"
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
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Ive got a million questions.

Which system need a dry sump?
PM Sent with FL builders name
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Originally Posted by Champion Motors
LS2 and LS3 use the same components, only difference bigger bore. 4.065" instead of 4.00"
WE still see more LS3s go bang then LS2s.

Adding Dry sump has taken care of oiling issues of the LS3 and LS2s. LS6s can get away with the accu-sump

The bigger the boar the better oiling and cooling the engine needs.

again this is not really for street engines, but high use road race / track day engines that see nothing but 3000 to redline beatings for 20 or more minutes at a time.

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Well, that's the pivotal point to your SB decision. AU bases all of his opinions on road racing environment, but for a street/drag car, you get more CI, and more power with a LS3 based block. And yes, you can use your AFR heads either way. I don't believe it's neccessary to go with a dry sump, although they are nice.
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what hp numbers are you guys getting with that ls2 402 stroker?
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Originally Posted by WKMCD
I know a really good engine builder but he charges $1.00 per question.
Originally Posted by AU N EGL
Phil Give me a day or two. I need to send a few emails out to race friends that live in the Tampa Sebring area to get the guys name and location.

that will be $5 to my paypal

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