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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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Well the vibration in my engine turned out to be the clutch and I need a new one. The current clutch is a textralia (not sure of the model). A certain shop recommended the Monster Stage 3. I am looking to spend no more than $800. I am running a SDPC 402 with AFR 205s, 12.5:1 comp, overall the last dyno was 490 rwhp and 475 tq. Help me with some suggestions/experiences with your clutch. Thanks. -Rusty
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I used an ACT clutch and PP and a Ram Billett Flywheel. It made the clutch pedal a bit stiffer but it engages with absolutely no chatter and has worked very well for me at the track. Not the stuff most around here will recommend, but I was tired of paying a premium for the latest greatest LSx clutch kit. I think the ACT is rated for 750 lb/ft.

Good luck with it.
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Thanks for that information. Clutches do seem to be more expensive than they should be.
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I used an ACT clutch and PP and a Ram Billett Flywheel. It made the clutch pedal a bit stiffer but it engages with absolutely no chatter and has worked very well for me at the track. Not the stuff most around here will recommend, but I was tired of paying a premium for the latest greatest LSx clutch kit. I think the ACT is rated for 750 lb/ft.

Good luck with it.
Same setup here but with their new light weight steel flywheel, great feel with no chatter as well. Really happy with it. 440rwhp 415rwtq
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My son and I put an ACT clutch, Fidanza aluminum flywheel and RAM master and slave into his 99 FRC. Works great. Pedal is stiffer than stock.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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ZO6 w a 346 H/C/I making 485 rwhp and more importantly 425 rwtq and I run a Centerforce 12" with resurfaced OEM flywheel with slave bleeder. Two of my Buddies have similar power level and setup.

No issues $385 for clutch $60 for flywheel resurfacing and 0 balance and my 8k miles of hard shifts with no pedal sticking to the floor PRICELESS

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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Great replies and I am glad to see you all have a less expensive route that is working for you. Thanks for the help. I am a bit concerned about my power levels. I would like to hear from some members with around 500 rwhp, 500 rwtq and how their setup is holding (specifically likes/dislikes and prices). Thanks.
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Old Jul 20, 2010 | 09:29 PM
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I would like to recommend a Fidanza dual-disc clutch with its aluminum flywheel. I have installed three in the past two years, one of them being in my Z06 after I got tired of the squealing in my Textralia OZ700 clutch.

With the Fidanza dual-disc there is no muss - fuss - or chatter.




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Originally Posted by rujr
Great replies and I am glad to see you all have a less expensive route that is working for you. Thanks for the help. I am a bit concerned about my power levels. I would like to hear from some members with around 500 rwhp, 500 rwtq and how their setup is holding (specifically likes/dislikes and prices). Thanks.
My ACT/RAM setup is behind a forged 383 that is not quite 500/500 but close enough.
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Thanks kp1
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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Not sure if you are planning to do the job yourself or not.

My son and I did his car. Used jackstands to get it up in the air. Motorcycle jack to lower/lift the rear end and just regular hand tools to do the swap. Only problem part was removing the old pilot bearing as I needed to cut it up with a dremel to get it out. Job took about 16 hrs start to finish without rushing.
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Old Jul 21, 2010 | 01:14 PM
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I am on the fence about doing the job myself. I have never done a clutch on any vehicle, let alone a C5. I also have a gravel drive. I try to minimize the use of 2"x12"s under jack stands on the gravel, especially if I will be completely underneath! The shop quoted me 500 for the clutch install. If I do it myself, I will be renting use of a lift in a shop for sure. Thanks for the tips in the previous post. I love working on my own vehicles because I know it will be right.
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Whatever you do, don't buy an RPS street twin. They may have stopped selling them though...
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Originally Posted by rujr
I am on the fence about doing the job myself. I have never done a clutch on any vehicle, let alone a C5. I also have a gravel drive. I try to minimize the use of 2"x12"s under jack stands on the gravel, especially if I will be completely underneath! The shop quoted me 500 for the clutch install. If I do it myself, I will be renting use of a lift in a shop for sure. Thanks for the tips in the previous post. I love working on my own vehicles because I know it will be right.
$500 for the labor is a pretty good deal if they know what they are doing.

I like being alive and able to stand/walk/talk. Jack stands on anything but concrete is too dangerous for me.
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Sounds like the shop is pointing you in the right direction with the level 3 monster, it'll easily hold more too of course if you decide on bigger heads down the road. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks, Chris
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Whatever you do, don't buy an RPS street twin. They may have stopped selling them though...
Why is this?
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Originally Posted by rujr
Well the vibration in my engine turned out to be the clutch and I need a new one. The current clutch is a textralia (not sure of the model). A certain shop recommended the Monster Stage 3. I am looking to spend no more than $800. I am running a SDPC 402 with AFR 205s, 12.5:1 comp, overall the last dyno was 490 rwhp and 475 tq. Help me with some suggestions/experiences with your clutch. Thanks. -Rusty
CENTERFORCE® Dual Friction (450+HP)
* 26-spline 12-in. Diameter Disc
* 12-in. Diameter Clutch Plate
P/N CTFDF395010 $ 355.50


CENTERFORCE® DFX (650+HP)
* 26-spline 12-in. Diameter Disc
* 12-in. Diameter Clutch Plate
P/N CTF01017010 $ 448.50

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/c5clutch.htm

I have the Dual Friction 12" and it works great. I'm only putting down 400whp, but the clutch has a stock pedal feel, and engages nice and smooth. Price/performance for this clutch was hard to beat!

Edit: I should also add that it's a ~9-10 hour job if you've done it before. And a shop should be quoting you around that many hours too... I would expect closer to $900 for a clutch swap from a reputable shop...

Good Luck!
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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Monster has announced they are coming out with a twin disc soon.
Might wanna hold out till there's feedback on that.
Myself, I have been using the LS7 clutch for a year now with no issues. I am at 511 rwhp/499 rwtq in a 2004 GTO.
Granted, I haven't beat on the car or taken it to the track (yet). I know when I do I'll have to upgrade, but so far, so good.
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Old Jul 23, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Great responses and I will consider them all. Thanks. Keep them coming if you have a clutch preference/recommendation
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Originally Posted by NeedaC6
Why is this?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...view-long.html

Cliffs Notes: Both RPS Organic Street Twins I have chatter/shudder when taking off. RPS's customer service and warranty suck. Their crappy product has caused me more than a week of downtime, hundreds of dollars in labor and a headache since the first time the car was pulled off the lift.
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