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Old Aug 25, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Does anyone know of a brand, or better yet a specific model of tire that runs a little wide?? Im specifically looking for a 315/30/18 that runs a little wider than the average 315/30.
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I think Toyos run wider than most tire brands.
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What wheel width are you stuff these onto? I got new rim sections for my modular rears to bring them out to just shy of 12 inches....so I can run 315 or wider rears....Fronts are 9-1/2 x 17

I also have the original wagon wheels, and OEM-GM Speedline thin-spokes....3 sets for 3 different tire setups

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BFG KDWs and PS2s run wide.

Original PS, Toyos and Nittos run narrow.

I'm just buying that exact set of CCWs that you are selling, and I'm gonna run KDWs on them (335 and 275s). I would have bought yours if you were just selling the wheels or had bigger tires

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yea, Id like to keep em....but its an 11.5 inch rim in the back....the Hankooks are too narrow at 315/30/18 and I cant stand the way the rim sticks out past the tire but the BFG KDWs in 335/35/18 stick out too far past the fender. The 11.5 inch rim is perfect as it sit flush with the fender, but nobody makes a tire that sits square on the rim. Hence Im looking for eithe a wide 315/30 or a narrow 335/35
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Well, I can tell you from experience (including CCW's recommendation), that the Nitto RII's and the Toyo RA1 in 335/30/18 are quite small and they would probably fit perfectly. However, they are both basically quasi-race tires. Not slicks or anything, but very soft.

Have you thought about mini-tubbing and getting a wider inner barrel for the rears? With a mini-tub, and new barrels to run 12" wide (towards the inside), the tire will stretch a little more towards the inside, making them more flush. New barrels are $120 a piece I believe. I just inquired about that to CCW since I had the same concern about the tires sticking out too much. I doubt I'll have an issue, from the pics I have seen they only stick out a tiny tiny bit (like <.5") so I'm not gonna sweat it. I thought about the mini tub but that's a lot of work and/or an extra $1k to do for such a small change. It's good to have the option though.

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Besides the looks you GOTTA concern yourself with how the tires behave....unless you just roll around with a max of .3 G in the corners going to and fro the country club and grocery store....

May I suggest, having been there and done that for 40 years, including having been a suspension engineer for several local SCCA race teams back in the 70s.....that...

FIRST you should be asking about ..
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the suitability for the environment [ rain or only dry, moderate temps, VS 120 degree days on end as in the desert...
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Driving characteristics of various tires at and near the limits of adhesion,
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The expected tire life for candidte tires
4.
Available size range to fit the application
5.
Cost of ownership

Once you ascertain a tire type that will be SUITABLE for the driving style, the weather and environment, and the potential life, THEN you get wheels that fit and get started on suspension tuning...

But to just be "stylin" on the way to the golf course, anything that fits under the fender I guess is OK.....

I have had very good luck with the BFG KDW2-NT in real world weather, except snow, and I plan on using them, in wider sizes on my 12 inch wheels now being rebuilt...which will also be accompanied with 2 inch hub-centric spacers and 2 inch fender flares..These tires behave very nice in high speed cornering, easy to drive at 99% without spinning out, they drain well in the rain, and stick pretty well in the dry. Life is not bad, depending on how you slide them around or not....I use up rears 2 to 1 compared to fronts, about 10 to 12 K miles on the rears and they are gone...but I am a crazy corner carver and use the gas a lot...I do USE these tires for all they are worth, and enjoy them a lot....and they are good all year around exept in snow.. Lots of people here are discovering this tire...It is all-around good performer at moderate cost compared to French and Italian tires, and it comes in lots of useful sizes.....

ALSO PLEASE consider that a little rubber beyond the rim will protect your rim in case of close-curbing....A cosmetic scuff on the tire is easier to deal with than a gouged up or bent rim section.

Jennifer
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All valid points...I would point out that I have no idea how to play golf, so the country club is out and with the amount of food I eat, I usually take the F250 since it can haul a bit more

As for the tires, I hear what you are saying and for my purposes...regular daily driving, sometimes getting caught in the rain, and the occasional auto x, track, or drag event Ive had really good luck with the Kuhmo Ecstas...they're pretty cheap, have solid stick for a street tire once they get some heat in them, and work better than most high performance tires in the afternoon FL thunderstorms. Kuhmo does make a 315/30/18 but I dont want to purchase another tire that is just slightly too narrow for the rim and I dont want to step up to the BFGKDW 335 beacuse I know those run a touch wide....the BFG in 315 would probably be perfect on the 11.5 inch rim, unfortunately, they dont make that size
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I have the Michelin PS2 in 315/30/18 and they look and drive nice.
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Good info guys! I will be replacing my 335s mounted to 11.5" CCWs very soon. Leaning towards the Toyos, especially if they run a little narrow.
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Good info guys! I will be replacing my 335s mounted to 11.5" CCWs very soon. Leaning towards the Toyos, especially if they run a little narrow.
thats just what I was looking at...you going to go 335 in the rear?? You can get a set of 275/35s in the front and 335/30s in the rear for about 850 bucks...I may go for it and keep the wheels Ive got
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I just need the rears. But am torn beteewn the 315s and 335s. I wish the 335s had a little more sidewall, more like a 295/35.

$850 for 4 is a great price, where is this from? PM me if you can not post it.
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Originally Posted by HP_Addict
I just need the rears. But am torn beteewn the 315s and 335s. I wish the 335s had a little more sidewall, more like a 295/35.

$850 for 4 is a great price, where is this from? PM me if you can not post it.
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The 335/30s have almost exactly the same sidewall as a 295/35. I believe it is .1" shorter sidewall (.2" shorter overall diameter for the tire). The 315/30 is .4" shorter than the 335/30 overall, that might be a noticeable difference over the 295/35.

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Originally Posted by FiberglassFan
Besides the looks you GOTTA concern yourself with how the tires behave....unless you just roll around with a max of .3 G in the corners going to and fro the country club and grocery store....

May I suggest, having been there and done that for 40 years, including having been a suspension engineer for several local SCCA race teams back in the 70s.....that...

FIRST you should be asking about ..
1.
the suitability for the environment [ rain or only dry, moderate temps, VS 120 degree days on end as in the desert...
2.
Driving characteristics of various tires at and near the limits of adhesion,
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The expected tire life for candidte tires
4.
Available size range to fit the application
5.
Cost of ownership

Once you ascertain a tire type that will be SUITABLE for the driving style, the weather and environment, and the potential life, THEN you get wheels that fit and get started on suspension tuning...

But to just be "stylin" on the way to the golf course, anything that fits under the fender I guess is OK.....

I have had very good luck with the BFG KDW2-NT in real world weather, except snow, and I plan on using them, in wider sizes on my 12 inch wheels now being rebuilt...which will also be accompanied with 2 inch hub-centric spacers and 2 inch fender flares..These tires behave very nice in high speed cornering, easy to drive at 99% without spinning out, they drain well in the rain, and stick pretty well in the dry. Life is not bad, depending on how you slide them around or not....I use up rears 2 to 1 compared to fronts, about 10 to 12 K miles on the rears and they are gone...but I am a crazy corner carver and use the gas a lot...I do USE these tires for all they are worth, and enjoy them a lot....and they are good all year around exept in snow.. Lots of people here are discovering this tire...It is all-around good performer at moderate cost compared to French and Italian tires, and it comes in lots of useful sizes.....

ALSO PLEASE consider that a little rubber beyond the rim will protect your rim in case of close-curbing....A cosmetic scuff on the tire is easier to deal with than a gouged up or bent rim section.

Jennifer
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Dope, you posted earlier about getting a wider inner barrel for the wheels....can you get a narrower inner barrel to step the wheel down from 11.5 inches to 11 inches wide?? Idealy id like to run a 305/35/18 which would work on an 11 inch wheel and not poke out past the fender...Im also concerned with the 335 on the 11.5 inch rim rubbing with the car lowered
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my drag radials are 295/35-18 on 10.5" wheel OD 26.1 calculated
street tires are 335/30-18 on 11.5"wheel OD 25.9 calculated

the calculated ODs are very close, but in reality the ODs are quite a bit different. The 295s have a visibly fatter sidewall and look better on the car. The 335s look more like a low profile tire. I like the rear tires to have a slightly fatter sidewall than the front. It just looks better to me.

a 305/30-18 on a 11" wheel would be perfect, but I don't want to give up the width. Does anyone make a 345/30-18?

I know this is getting picky, but it is the little things that make a car look right.
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Here ya go:

305/35/18.....12.5 in width, 26.4 in OD
315/30/18.....12.6 in width, 25.4 in OD
335/30/18.....13.5 in width, 25.9 in OD


I hear what your saying about wanting more sidewall in the back...pretty much the 305/35/18 on an 11 inch rim would be ideal...unfortunately my rears are 11.5 and that leaves too much exposed rim lip in my opinion. So what Im left looking for is a 315 that runs a bit wider than advertised or a 335 that runs a bit more narrow than advertised to cover the lip on the 11.5 in rim but not stick out so much as to rub on the fender
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All you have to do is check out the spec's @ tire rack. They list all the info you need to know. They have a good site to answer all your tire questions.
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I've run 315/30 ps2, pirelli and now kumho, the last have been the widest looking. I've also run 315/35 Toyo TQ which would work for you if you don't mind running a drag radial.
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