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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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I talked to my tuner awhile back and he stated that all I needed were some headers and a small cam....and to not waste money on an intake and heads......now I thought he was crazy...but after researching a bit he may be right??? Looking for power on the street and some nice track times....can this be had with a smaller cam???...any proven numbers , cam size, suggestions???
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Your tuner is partialy right. Your question is to broad. Give us
a horsepower goal give or take and you will get a more specific
answer. What are you looking for in horsepower on the ground??
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Since you have the 243's with the light valves, you are a step ahead. Problem is, once you have some you want more. I have what most would consider a small cam but optimized compression and I love it because it is responsive at any RPM.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 05:31 PM
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I am running stock LS1 heads, LT's, LS6 intake, mild cam and a great tune for a great tuner. Putting down 405 rwhp and 403 rwtq. That is good enough for me.

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Since you have the 243's with the light valves, you are a step ahead. Problem is, once you have some you want more. I have what most would consider a small cam but optimized compression and I love it because it is responsive at any RPM.

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Daddyrama31
I am running stock LS1 heads, LT's, LS6 intake, mild cam and a great tune for a great tuner. Putting down 405 rwhp and 403 rwtq. That is good enough for me.
Have you ever dyno'd it somewhere else? Your #'s seem very high considering your mods.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:28 PM
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Mods in sig and put down 409/403. The car is on thinner headgaskets to help bump up the compression a little. It rev's well and it's got great power below the curve. I wanted to go with a bigger cam but stayed with the 228R from texas-speed. May go with a Torquer 2 or something next time
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Yes sir, two different dyno's different times of the year, both resulted in + or - in both HP and TQ. I also have a fully customized CAI system. Next mod is some TEA heads.
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Have you ever dyno'd it somewhere else? Your #'s seem very high considering your mods.
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Ed Curtis cuts this cam AZPS03 in my friends CamaroSS M6 with LT, tune, had 241 heads with 921 spring upgrade only, and this cam he made 420 rwhp. cutting 12's @ 114mph in Tucson with a god awful DA.
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413rwhp and 389rwtq. Stock 241's, LT's, MS3 Cam, CAI, stock intake manifold, and ported TB.
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 07:10 AM
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241 heads can make very good low to mid range torque and adequate hp in the upper curve with the right cam and springs.

the smaller runners of the 241 heads creates higher air velocity into the cylinder, vs larger runner heads.

Going to a larger runner head will kill the low end torque but increase higher end HP.
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Originally Posted by road pilot
Your tuner is partialy right. Your question is to broad. Give us
a horsepower goal give or take and you will get a more specific
answer. What are you looking for in horsepower on the ground??
I'd love to be able to hit the high 10's at the track.w/o loosing low end torque on the street..but I don't believe this to be a reality with a smaller cam. I'd like to have a nice lope, basically the max I could go without changing the heads and get the most performance...Is this possible?

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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Look into the G5X1 (E)xecutive cam... Very nice!! It has everything you are looking for!
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To answer your question: yes cam only can make decent power. To make the better power you need to massage your heads or go with premium heads
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Old Sep 18, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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If you get a bigger cam, you need more air an deliver more fuel to the cylinders. Then you need to be able to exhaust it correctly. It all works together. I did cam heads exhaust an have 435rwhp an 400lbs torque.
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