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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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Default LS2 throttle body in a C5??? Hook ups same or different?

Simple question, are the plugs for the LS1 and LS2 TB's the same? I may look into using an LS2 TB.

Don't worry guys, I know the difference in the bore sizes, etc. Just curious if the harness in my car will plug right into the LS2 TB.

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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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No. You will need a harness adapter.

You'll also need some tuning, but I'm assuming you knew that.
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No. You will need a harness adapter.

You'll also need some tuning, but I'm assuming you knew that.
I had a feelin' I'd need an adapter harness, the pics of LS2 TB's looked different. I assume those are available?

Ya, tuning and other will be a part of it.
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Yup. I'm running an LS2 TB with a wiring adapter right now. I did remove the LS1 connectors and soldered the wires to make it cleaner, but you certainly don't have to.

Hinson sells one:
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/p-934...r-harness.aspx
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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You will also need a new filtered source of air for the PCV system as there is no port on the LS2 throttle body (hose from TB to passenger valve cover).
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by manley845
Simple question, are the plugs for the LS1 and LS2 TB's the same? I may look into using an LS2 TB.

Don't worry guys, I know the difference in the bore sizes, etc. Just curious if the harness in my car will plug right into the LS2 TB.

Thanks in advance
You "know about the bore sizes, etc." so I assume you know the LS2 TB doesn't fit a LS6 intake manifold?
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Old Nov 4, 2010 | 05:57 PM
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VETTENUTS - I have eliminated the PCV system so no biggie there.

ZEEVETTE - I don't have the LS6 intake anymore. But, I do realize that in addition to larger bore size, the LS2 is also a 4 bolt mount whereas the LS1 is a 3 bolt. I have the means to emlarge the opening of my intake and make an adapter and then it would be a simple bolt-on part.

Thanks guys, I think I have all the info. I am playing with this idea and also the thought of boring the stock TB to 85mm. I'm not trying to be cheap, I'm just playing and seeing what can be done.
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 12:12 AM
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just get a fast 90 and throw the ls2 tb/harness on and be done with it
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Originally Posted by ragu1585
just get a fast 90 and throw the ls2 tb/harness on and be done with it
Ya, but that's no fun

I like being different. I'll probably just do a BBK TB or port an LS1 out to 85mm if possible. All in all my stick unit is more than enough, but I like playing.
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I seriously doubt that you will be able to bore out that LS1 TB. Your probably going to hit a coolant passage or casting void before you ge to 85MM. Just my guess..

LS2 TB is a MUCH better design and has much more flexability.



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I seriously doubt that you will be able to bore out that LS1 TB. Your probably going to hit a coolant passage or casting void before you ge to 85MM. Just my guess..

LS2 TB is a MUCH better design and has much more flexability.



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That's what I'm thinking too, and why I'm exploring both routes. I will try both and report results, be they good or bad.

I would like to bore the stock TB if possible and keep a stock look, for the most part. I am not worried about the coolant passage and if I hit a void I will make use of JB Weld

If I keep the stock TB anyways, I will be "porting" myself (actually just smoothingit out like everyone else, and calling it ported ) and going a step further and filling in that "notch" that allows air for the PCV system and drilling a small hole in its place, and also blending the back side so it matches my manifold, kinda creating a venturi type thingy-bobber
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Originally Posted by manley845
That's what I'm thinking too, and why I'm exploring both routes. I will try both and report results, be they good or bad.

I would like to bore the stock TB if possible and keep a stock look, for the most part. I am not worried about the coolant passage and if I hit a void I will make use of JB Weld

If I keep the stock TB anyways, I will be "porting" myself (actually just smoothingit out like everyone else, and calling it ported ) and going a step further and filling in that "notch" that allows air for the PCV system and drilling a small hole in its place, and also blending the back side so it matches my manifold, kinda creating a venturi type thingy-bobber
Keep in mind that even if you can bore out the TB to the size you want, you'll have to size the throttle blade just right. Excess air leakage can be a bear tune, too much and you may not be able to get it tuned to your satisfaction.

Honestly an LS2 with a matching intake is your best bet. If you can't swing that, then you would be better off ascertaining how far you can bore the intake and then fashion an adapter to affix the LS2 TB to. It will be much easier tune for and allow you to grow into a better intake in the future.
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Originally Posted by 99C5JA1
Keep in mind that even if you can bore out the TB to the size you want, you'll have to size the throttle blade just right. Excess air leakage can be a bear tune, too much and you may not be able to get it tuned to your satisfaction.

Honestly an LS2 with a matching intake is your best bet. If you can't swing that, then you would be better off ascertaining how far you can bore the intake and then fashion an adapter to affix the LS2 TB to. It will be much easier tune for and allow you to grow into a better intake in the future.
Throttle blade will not be an issue, I will have one made. And I would imagine any minute leak would only act as a metered leak as it will remain consistant just as it is with the factory fit.

I have found an adapter but would probably machine my own.

My intake would support the machining to match up to the 90mm if I go with the LS2, but again, I'm just kinda playing around.

I do like the looks of the LS2, it really seems to be a much nicer design form the start.
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There's a company that makes a LS6 manifold with a LS2 snout refitted. That'd be a simple way to do it, but really, a FAST, ported, is a much better performer. Why make it more difficult, and almost as expensive?
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Originally Posted by manley845
That's what I'm thinking too, and why I'm exploring both routes. I will try both and report results, be they good or bad.

I would like to bore the stock TB if possible and keep a stock look, for the most part. I am not worried about the coolant passage and if I hit a void I will make use of JB Weld

If I keep the stock TB anyways, I will be "porting" myself (actually just smoothingit out like everyone else, and calling it ported ) and going a step further and filling in that "notch" that allows air for the PCV system and drilling a small hole in its place, and also blending the back side so it matches my manifold, kinda creating a venturi type thingy-bobber
Sounds like your pretty tallented! For the PCV Vent, obtain a brass tube the same size as the vent line and and neck down one end and insert it into the vent line opening i the TB void.

Then put your JB Weld in the void and around the metal pipe. Once it cured, just grind /machine the JB Weld and tube and it will blend into the TB opening on an angle like it was made that way. It looks a LOT better than a hole drilled into the epoxy that may chip and crack later down the line.

Take some pictures. Sounds like a cool project. Heres a LS1 TB that I did some light SHAPING and polishing to:



Heres the LS2 TB that I ported for my C6 Coupe:



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ZEEVETTE - I don't look at it as making it harder, but rather as a way to bond with my baby. Sometimes I feel she doesn't realize just how much I love her and it's when I take those few extra moments to show her just how special she is that I know she understands just how special she really is to me

BILL - I was thinking about using a piece of tubing, but I will most likely not even have a port for the PCV system. That is, if I go the ported LS1 TB route.

It'll be a few weeks at least before I even have a TB to mutilate. I imagine I will try to port the LS1 TB either way. I'll post results, good or bad. lol
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