Wanting to stall...
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
Wanting to stall...
So everyone in a while when I am backing out of the garage and the rpms drop to about 3 or 400 while letting the clutch out I will push the clutch back in so it doesnt stall and they will go back to about 1300 then they will go back to about 300 and it will surge for a little while like it is about to stall out. It will do this for about 20 seconds then resume normal idle, is there anything to explain this or is it common?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
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Melting Slicks
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Nope its a paper one, and it only happens when I go to take off and bring the revs down to about 400 cause I dont really use the throttle at all backing out of the garage.
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
I agree with the PCV valve and or its connection tube at the intake. Also look at the air-bridge and insure that no unmetered air is getting past the MAF. Lots of times, we've heard of it coming up on the bottom edge of the bridge and its not easy to spot. Back to the PCV valve, I've had this happen personally where the connection tube looking fine but in fact, had a major hole on the bottom of it, out of sight and it was causing similar issues. Lastly, there is a procedure for "Idle Relearn" and it probably needs to be done. Use the search in here and you'll easily find it.
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Melting Slicks
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Well its not like it happens all the time maybe once every one or two months and it only happens if I let the revs drop to about 400 while letting the clutch out which is why I cant see it being a vacuum leak or un metered air because that would cause a rough idle 100% of the time. Right?
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Well its not like it happens all the time maybe once every one or two months and it only happens if I let the revs drop to about 400 while letting the clutch out which is why I cant see it being a vacuum leak or un metered air because that would cause a rough idle 100% of the time. Right?
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Burning Brakes
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From: Freeport, FL
Drive the car man! 
And use the throttle
Assuming that this car is not driven often, or when it is, that it is driven gently, and assuming that this is a recent issue, and assuming that the check engine light is not on, then I would suggest spraying some cleaner into the throttle body to clean the blade and bore of the TB.
If everything else works fine with the car and this is a recent issue, or has been getting worse, it is probably just some oil/funk build-up in the TB. This would be due to the PCV system and the oil vapor that is allowed into the TB.
BUT, it could be several different issues causing your condition, most revolving around old, worn, or dirty sensors.
Seriously though, just give it a lil gas
And use the throttle
Assuming that this car is not driven often, or when it is, that it is driven gently, and assuming that this is a recent issue, and assuming that the check engine light is not on, then I would suggest spraying some cleaner into the throttle body to clean the blade and bore of the TB.
If everything else works fine with the car and this is a recent issue, or has been getting worse, it is probably just some oil/funk build-up in the TB. This would be due to the PCV system and the oil vapor that is allowed into the TB.
BUT, it could be several different issues causing your condition, most revolving around old, worn, or dirty sensors.
Seriously though, just give it a lil gas
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
Well I know that one hose is cracked and I havent had time to check the MAF yet plus its in the 20's and snowing today
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
Drive the car man!
And use the throttle
Assuming that this car is not driven often, or when it is, that it is driven gently, and assuming that this is a recent issue, and assuming that the check engine light is not on, then I would suggest spraying some cleaner into the throttle body to clean the blade and bore of the TB.
If everything else works fine with the car and this is a recent issue, or has been getting worse, it is probably just some oil/funk build-up in the TB. This would be due to the PCV system and the oil vapor that is allowed into the TB.
BUT, it could be several different issues causing your condition, most revolving around old, worn, or dirty sensors.
Seriously though, just give it a lil gas
And use the throttle
Assuming that this car is not driven often, or when it is, that it is driven gently, and assuming that this is a recent issue, and assuming that the check engine light is not on, then I would suggest spraying some cleaner into the throttle body to clean the blade and bore of the TB.
If everything else works fine with the car and this is a recent issue, or has been getting worse, it is probably just some oil/funk build-up in the TB. This would be due to the PCV system and the oil vapor that is allowed into the TB.
BUT, it could be several different issues causing your condition, most revolving around old, worn, or dirty sensors.
Seriously though, just give it a lil gas
Burning Brakes
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From: Freeport, FL
How long have you had the car? Has it always done this?
Does it have issues when it is just idling?
What happens when you 'blip' the throttle? Does it restore to idle nicely, drop below idle, or stumble?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
Sounds like that's the case. Doesn't really sound like you have a real issue.
How long have you had the car? Has it always done this?
Does it have issues when it is just idling?
What happens when you 'blip' the throttle? Does it restore to idle nicely, drop below idle, or stumble?
How long have you had the car? Has it always done this?
Does it have issues when it is just idling?
What happens when you 'blip' the throttle? Does it restore to idle nicely, drop below idle, or stumble?
It doesnt have any other problems other than having to add a few ounces of power steering fluid every couple of weeks.
And the only thing that will cure the surging is to wait it out for about 10 seconds or hold it at about 2 grand for a few seconds.
Burning Brakes
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It is going on a year since I got it but I didnt start driving it till this past summer, but it has always done this when the rpms drop really low.
It doesnt have any other problems other than having to add a few ounces of power steering fluid every couple of weeks.
And the only thing that will cure the surging is to wait it out for about 10 seconds or hold it at about 2 grand for a few seconds.
It doesnt have any other problems other than having to add a few ounces of power steering fluid every couple of weeks.
And the only thing that will cure the surging is to wait it out for about 10 seconds or hold it at about 2 grand for a few seconds.
It just needs to be driven. I really bet that if you put some fuel system cleaner in it and really run the snot out of it, it will run better. And by run the snot outta it, I mean to stay away from O/D gears and hit redline several times, zip down the highway in 3rd or 4th gear for a stretch, let that engine breath a bit.
It just needs to be driven.
p.s. I am not suggesting to do anything foolish with your car like sit in the driveway and floor it and let it bang against the rev limiter. Just get out and drive that thing, drive it the way it was meant to be driven.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Yorktown Virginia
RXP fuel system cleaner, drive the **** outta it. And maybe change the plugs and fuel filter for good measure.
It just needs to be driven. I really bet that if you put some fuel system cleaner in it and really run the snot out of it, it will run better. And by run the snot outta it, I mean to stay away from O/D gears and hit redline several times, zip down the highway in 3rd or 4th gear for a stretch, let that engine breath a bit.
It just needs to be driven.
p.s. I am not suggesting to do anything foolish with your car like sit in the driveway and floor it and let it bang against the rev limiter. Just get out and drive that thing, drive it the way it was meant to be driven.
It just needs to be driven. I really bet that if you put some fuel system cleaner in it and really run the snot out of it, it will run better. And by run the snot outta it, I mean to stay away from O/D gears and hit redline several times, zip down the highway in 3rd or 4th gear for a stretch, let that engine breath a bit.
It just needs to be driven.
p.s. I am not suggesting to do anything foolish with your car like sit in the driveway and floor it and let it bang against the rev limiter. Just get out and drive that thing, drive it the way it was meant to be driven.
