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Old Feb 2, 2011 | 11:56 PM
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I was cleaning out my catch can and noticed a creamy buildup in the can. A little research suggested this happens when oil mixes with moisture.

The good news is that the dipstick and oil cap have no signs of this creamy gunk. Over the past 48 hours, the temperature dropped from the low 70s to the 20s. Would such a drop in temperature cause moisture in the air and oil create this substance in the catch can?
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I think that going from 20 to 70 could cause it but Im not too sure about the other way around. I would also think that in order for it to become creamy like you say it would have to me churned or mixed up in some way.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by m6 c5
I think that going from 20 to 70 could cause it but Im not too sure about the other way around.
Yep ... the warmer the air is, the more moisture it can hold. If a bunch of short trips were done, it's possible it's just an accumulation of condensation the PCV system has collected.
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Yep ... the warmer the air is, the more moisture it can hold. If a bunch of short trips were done, it's possible it's just an accumulation of condensation the PCV system has collected.
I did drive the car a bunch on Tuesday which is when there was the biggest change in weather conditions.... I hope that's what it is.
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Old Feb 3, 2011 | 05:08 AM
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Shorter trips, cold weather. Last year it got so bad my wife's BMW crankcase ventilation valve ruptured due to moisture that froze. Additionally, the moisture screwed up the Vanos (cam advance system). All in all, $3,500 in repairs
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You can get a Block Tester at your local parts store. You can use it to check for a headgasket leak.
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You can get a Block Tester at your local parts store. You can use it to check for a headgasket leak.
what is the procedure for this?
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gets pretty cold where i live and have seen this in catch cans in fall and spring months,no worries
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as long as it is in the catch can and not oil pan, stick or cap, you should be fine. I had a catch can that drained out of the bottom into a sealed clear container on my GTO last year, 1 ounce of water for every 900-1000 miles driven was the average.
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Originally Posted by sabastian458
as long as it is in the catch can and not oil pan, stick or cap, you should be fine.
Yep ... the catch can will act like a "condensation trap" also if the car is driven on short trips where the engine isn't at full temp for very long periods.

After some longer continuous run times, look inside the catch can and see if there is any moisture or not ... shouldn't be any in that case.
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Originally Posted by theradioflyer
what is the procedure for this?
The kit comes with a plastic tube that fits inplace of your radiator cap. You put the blue fluid that comes with it in the tube. Run the engine, if the fluid turns to green or yellow, you have exhaust gases in the coolent. That means you have a leaky headgasket or a cracked head.
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While performing my winter storage oil change last November, I noticed the same thing. Drained oil from crankase looked normal. Combination of short late season drives and cold damp weather. Looked like liquid carmel in the catch can.
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Originally Posted by ZeeOSix
Yep ... the catch can will act like a "condensation trap" also if the car is driven on short trips where the engine isn't at full temp for very long periods.

After some longer continuous run times, look inside the catch can and see if there is any moisture or not ... shouldn't be any in that case.
and I don't think I would try to test for head gasket leaks unless it still happens without the short trip conditions and temp drops.

Good Luck!
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Originally Posted by Paul Ruggeri
The kit comes with a plastic tube that fits inplace of your radiator cap. You put the blue fluid that comes with it in the tube. Run the engine, if the fluid turns to green or yellow, you have exhaust gases in the coolent. That means you have a leaky headgasket or a cracked head.
Hmm....good excuse to upgrade to 317 heads and while I'm at it replace a few things in the motor.

Originally Posted by rdwiv
and I don't think I would try to test for head gasket leaks unless it still happens without the short trip conditions and temp drops.

Good Luck!
Saturday is tune-day and the weather should be manageable. I'll check after the weekend to see if I get any more crap after i run my errands.
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