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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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If the hazards flash, then the MFS to the tailights, has to be good......which includes the brown wire.
I agree it must be the hazard switch but I always like to be certain.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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I agree it must be the hazard switch but I always like to be certain.
I never said it was the hazard switch, but I guess you missed my point. If you look at the schematic, you'll see that the brown wire to the MFS, is fed from the hazard swith. The OP reported that the rear harzards do flash, just no brake lights......so the MFS has to be working normally.
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Old Mar 11, 2011 | 09:41 PM
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First of all I wanna thank Mike for really helping me out with sound well thought out advice and guidance. I replaced the flasher switch according to directions that Mike also sent me. Pretty straight forward a remove and replace job. I'm glad that I did it myself. With alot of help of course. Bad flasher took me about an hour and a half from start to tool clean-up. I had t but the flasher unit from the dealership. Pep boys, Kragens, auto zone did not stock the item. Once again a big THANKS! Lets cruise!
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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First of all I wanna thank Mike for really helping me out with sound well thought out advice and guidance. I replaced the flasher switch according to directions that Mike also sent me. Pretty straight forward a remove and replace job. I'm glad that I did it myself. With alot of help of course. Bad flasher took me about an hour and a half from start to tool clean-up. I had t but the flasher unit from the dealership. Pep boys, Kragens, auto zone did not stock the item. Once again a big THANKS! Lets cruise!
Glad it worked out.
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ALSO remember---IF your car is an A4--- the brake light switch also UNLOCKS the converter evertyime the brake pedal is touched--
Having a failure in the brake light circuit may cause your converter to be permanently locked or unlocked---very imporatnt to get it sorted out as tranny issue could result--------
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 02:12 PM
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ALSO remember---IF your car is an A4--- the brake light switch also UNLOCKS the converter evertyime the brake pedal is touched--
Having a failure in the brake light circuit may cause your converter to be permanently locked or unlocked---very imporatnt to get it sorted out as tranny issue could result--------
Nope. You are confusing the "extended brake switch" , with the "stoplamp switch". different switches, different outputs, different functions.
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Old Mar 12, 2011 | 10:21 PM
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Now what I wanna know, Mike, are you an electrical engineer or what??
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Old Mar 13, 2011 | 04:43 AM
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Now what I wanna know, Mike, are you an electrical engineer or what??
Nope. Just a guy with a service manual.
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Nope. You are confusing the "extended brake switch" , with the "stoplamp switch". different switches, different outputs, different functions.
Whatever--the point i was trying to make is when the BRAKE pedal is depressed it will unlock the converter-failures of any part of the brake circuit MAY create issues -- I've seen it several times-
I said---
"UNLOCKS the converter evertyime the brake pedal is touched "

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"Having a failure in the BRAKE LIGHT CIRCUIT may cause your converter to be permanently locked or unlocked

The "brake light circuit" is a general description of all the devices on that circuit and includes ANY switches associated with the brake pedal--This is what i was speaking of--
I never said STOPLAMP anywhere"
Not confused or trying to confuse anyone --just not splitting hairs like you--
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Nope. Just a guy with a service manual.
And some probes!

Nice job Mike.
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Old Mar 14, 2011 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tblu92

The "brake light circuit" is a general description of all the devices on that circuit and includes ANY switches associated with the brake pedal-

.....and that even makes less sense. The "brake light circuit"(as you call it), and the "extended brake switch circuit" have nothing in common....other than being co-located at the brake pedal. It's YOUR general description, not one that is common....or more importantly.....correct.


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--just not splitting hairs like you--
I'm not splitting hairs, just trying to clarify, for anyone reading this thread, that actually wants to understand the correct terminology, and not chase their tale, based off of someone's home grown "general descriptions".
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Old Mar 15, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Exactly-----you are chasing YOUR TALE---!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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using this thread for almost same issue I have third brake light working, intact fuses, working rear hazard flights and replaced the hazard switch a few days ago but it didnt solve my problem. After reading the above I guess next step would be to check the white wire but I dont know were to find it and how to get to it. The picture above seems to be removed.

Anyone can guide me where to look for the white wire and maybe post a picture or two.

Thanks, really like this forum and all the helpful people here. Dont know what I would do otherwhise
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Old May 13, 2012 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Glad it worked out.
Have the same problem center brake light works, flashers work but no regular brake lights. Replaced brake switch, should have read your post first, new to this. Could use help in remove and replace hazard switch. Bought 2000 vette in October should have checked out better when I ran into no brake lights and checked hazard switch it was jamed into dash and could not activate brother JB welded so it would work so I may have an issue to replace.
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Old Nov 18, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
See if the lights flash with the hazards.
I just read your post. My brake lights out and when hazards flash it's only the front. Was going to replace the hazard switch inside the console but wondering if there is possibly 2 different switches or fuses for hazards. Cant figure why front work and not back so assume I am missing something. Thanks for any help
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lbferguson
I just read your post. My brake lights out and when hazards flash it's only the front. Was going to replace the hazard switch inside the console but wondering if there is possibly 2 different switches or fuses for hazards. Cant figure why front work and not back so assume I am missing something. Thanks for any help
Suggest you start a new Thread. Like others, I have worked on dozens of these issues and we can walk thru the diagnostics. If I don't see your Thread please PM me with your phone number and I can work with you one on one to resolve your problem.
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Resurrecting an old thread in hopes of getting somewhere.

I created my own post for this problem but I'm not getting anywhere. Any help appreciated
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Old Jan 18, 2021 | 07:23 AM
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Hello
Sorry for this mail but I found old thread for this matter. Maybe you can help me?
I have this US exported c6 Z06 -06 and want to put back original rear lights, prev lamps were with separate amber blinkers. The old wires in back were cutted and brake signal was taken from third brake light. I have new USA-wire harness but after putting it to car the brake lights are not working with US-lights, everything else works. So there is some other modification made. I do not think that car has been changed to euro spec from BCM, it still has tyre pressure monitor. SO is there some change made in front of the car, there is no "white wire" in brake pedal (attched picture). Should i take hazard button off and check it?

Hopefully you can help me... You can send me e-mail : ismo.reponen@irepoint.fi or reply this.

BR
Ismo Reponen from Finland
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 08:46 AM
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Replied to wrong thread. oops.

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