C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Harmonic balancer questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 12:18 PM
  #1  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default Harmonic balancer questions

Hello all.

When I bought my car back in January, I noticed the harmonic balancer was wobbling. After joining the forum I discovered this is somewhat common, but should be fixed.

The balancer that is on the car is fairly new, I found paperwork from the previous owner that said it had been replaced within the last 10k miles.

Right now it is wobbling about .050", is this enough to warrant concern?

Also, if I am going to fix it, I would prefer to do it right and use a good pulley, such as an ATI. But, they are around $400. I can get the NAPA part, it is only $100 but I do not want to have to do this again in a year or so.

Any advice is appreciated.

Thanks!
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 12:43 PM
  #2  
chevy406's Avatar
chevy406
Tech Contributor
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,731
Likes: 82
From: New Market AL
Default

You need to fix it NOW. It will only get worse and can lead to damage on the crankshaft snout, front cover, or even the steering rack.
Get an ARP balancer bolt to go back in it, and make sure it's tightened this time.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 12:54 PM
  #3  
Paul 75 L82's Avatar
Paul 75 L82
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 5,245
Likes: 25
From: Blue Ridge Georgia
Default

Sounds like it was just an installation problem, I don't think the stock pulley is a bad design.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 02:48 PM
  #4  
corvettebob1's Avatar
corvettebob1
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,315
Likes: 17
From: Near Jacksonville Fl.
Default

Originally Posted by Paul 75 L82
Sounds like it was just an installation problem, I don't think the stock pulley is a bad design.
Why would you say that when there are such a high number of failures right here on this forum?
The other issue is when a balancer is replaced it should be pinned to the crank, another poor design!
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 03:29 PM
  #5  
VET IT B's Avatar
VET IT B
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,590
Likes: 5
From: Forsyth Illinois
Default

Any wobble is too much. Get it fixed.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 03:32 PM
  #6  
vettenuts's Avatar
vettenuts
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 22,025
Likes: 192
From: At the beach in little Rhody
Default

0.050" is less then the spark plug gap. If you have evidence it was recently replaced, are there problems that lead you to believe it needs replacement again?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 03:38 PM
  #7  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
0.050" is less then the spark plug gap. If you have evidence it was recently replaced, are there problems that lead you to believe it needs replacement again?

just want to make sure I avoid any unneeded headaches
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 03:46 PM
  #8  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

any recommendations for a replacement pulley and pinning kit? (preferably with part numbers )
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 04:46 PM
  #9  
bucketlist1957's Avatar
bucketlist1957
Instructor
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: Topeka Kansas
Default ATI Balancer

You may want to do a search on ATI Balancers. There is a post or several about that particular brand causing problems.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 05:00 PM
  #10  
ipuig's Avatar
ipuig
Drifting
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,722
Likes: 138
From: Florida
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

How did you come up with the .050" figure? Unless there is a visible installation problem, I would not recommend replacing a harmonic balancer with only 10,000 miles of use, waste of time and money in my opinion.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 05:10 PM
  #11  
lucky131969's Avatar
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,360
Likes: 1,127
From: Dyer, IN
Default

Originally Posted by bucketlist1957
You may want to do a search on ATI Balancers. There is a post or several about that particular brand causing problems.
I'm familiar with the issues with "ASP", but not "ATI". Can you direct me to a thread?

Last edited by lucky131969; Mar 25, 2011 at 05:23 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 05:18 PM
  #12  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

Originally Posted by ipuig
How did you come up with the .050" figure? Unless there is a visible installation problem, I would not recommend replacing a harmonic balancer with only 10,000 miles of use, waste of time and money in my opinion.
rough estimate from a dial gauge
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 07:31 PM
  #13  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

Actually according to the paperwork it was replaced 3k miles ago. New pulley, seal, and bolt. I have no idea why it would be wobbling after such a short time, or why it was replaced in the first place.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 08:47 PM
  #14  
69SSC5's Avatar
69SSC5
Pro
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

how did you measure how much the balancer was wobbling? just curious so i can measure how much mine is wobbling
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 08:50 PM
  #15  
vettenuts's Avatar
vettenuts
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 22,025
Likes: 192
From: At the beach in little Rhody
Default

Originally Posted by bucketlist1957
You may want to do a search on ATI Balancers. There is a post or several about that particular brand causing problems.
Not sure where you got this, ATI is the flat out best aftermarket balancer available. ASP has issues if that is what you meant.


Originally Posted by ipuig
How did you come up with the .050" figure? Unless there is a visible installation problem, I would not recommend replacing a harmonic balancer with only 10,000 miles of use, waste of time and money in my opinion.
That's what I was thinking as well.

Last edited by vettenuts; Mar 25, 2011 at 08:54 PM.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 09:11 PM
  #16  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

Originally Posted by Heimlich2010
how did you measure how much the balancer was wobbling? just curious so i can measure how much mine is wobbling
dial indicator

Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 09:27 PM
  #17  
69SSC5's Avatar
69SSC5
Pro
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 535
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default

guess i need to get me one of them
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Harmonic balancer questions

Old Mar 25, 2011 | 10:16 PM
  #18  
bucketlist1957's Avatar
bucketlist1957
Instructor
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: Topeka Kansas
Default My Bad

I made a mistake. Sorry ATI. I read it quick and was thinking about the ASP problems.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 10:33 PM
  #19  
FRCTony's Avatar
FRCTony
Drifting
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,737
Likes: 0
From: Northern VA
Default

Just make a mark across the inner and outer rings and keep an eye on it. Just because the thing has a slight wobble doesn't mean it wasn't installed correctly, or that the bolt has loosened.

If the marks move, then you have a problem.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 11:07 PM
  #20  
shift's Avatar
shift
Thread Starter
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 241
Likes: 0
From: southeast AZ
Default

Originally Posted by FRCTony
Just make a mark across the inner and outer rings and keep an eye on it. Just because the thing has a slight wobble doesn't mean it wasn't installed correctly, or that the bolt has loosened.

If the marks move, then you have a problem.

That sounds like a good idea for now, wish I would have done it before I took it for a drive tonight.

thanks
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:15 PM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE