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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by heavymetals
$200.00

Don't know where you get your info on "0" ohm, but OBD II approved.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com...mp-334-24.html
The mfg of the 0 ohm wire I have been looking at said in their testing it was not optimal for performance, that is caused coil saturation.

$200 is a lot of money .. our hi heat wires with max protection are only $147 shipped and there is no difference between a 40 ohm wire and 0 ohm in performance at 8"..
I have not seen a legit test done yet. First time we saw any results was a 20 hp difference. Only way that happens is one wire no being pluged in... fade to due to heat is possible I supposed so we offer the heat protection.. No one has done an independant apples to apples test yet

The sock is good 1200°F
Can Rest Directly on Exhaust Headers

The sleeving is good for 1200*F radiant heat
The salmon colored boot is good to 700*
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Granatelli

O ohm

OBDII Safe

Yea sure, that and the rest of their products, and you will be in the 700 HP range on a stock engine!

Wires are NOT going to make any appreciable (see it on the dyno) horse power on a stock or moderately modified engine. Your engine may run SMOTHER if the stock or old wires were compromised.

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Granatelli

O ohm

OBDII Safe

Yea sure, that and the rest of their products, and you will be in the 700 HP range on a stock engine!

Wires are NOT going to make any appreciable (see it on the dyno) horse power on a stock or moderately modified engine. Your engine may run SMOTHER if the stock or old wires were compromised.

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My engine is not stock and I didn't buy the wires on the HP BS.

(I think some of these manufactures use the CBO to calculate hp gains for them!)

I just posted what I bought, what it costs and what I measured.

I have had good luck with their products.

MSD on the other hand, will never make another dime off of me.

At the compression ratios my engines run at, I seriously doubt whether a few thousand milliohms make any difference.

Incidentally, my old wires were compromised, ergo I needed replacements.

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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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I have a set of MSD wires with 15k on them. I just tested two.. 38 and 40 ohms respectively. The folks complaining about MSD wires on LS1 vehicles are funny. Somebody burns a wire and blames the MFG for their ignorance. WELCOME TO THE INTERNET!
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:05 PM
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While at the Knoxville Nationals this year I purchased a MSD 12LT Pro Mag for my Sprint Car. I spent about an hour in the MSD trailer with their techs going over the advantages of the MSD Mag. During the discussion he mentioned they have been seeing an influx of MSD knockoffs that are getting into the market. People thought they got a hell of a buy on a new mag only to find out when they failed and sent them to MSD the internals were Chinese. Just a little info. Buy from a reputable Supplier and you will probably be safe. I would be willing to bet there are wires out there that are the same way. I know you guys are all Corvette guys but if you go to a race track you will see a lot of MSD stuff running.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by baxsom
i didnt like these because there was not a positive click on the spark plug and my metal heat shield boots would not go on. the GMPP wires clicked right in and I was able to retain the boots.
Originally Posted by heavymetals
Just installed a set of Granatelli "Zero OHM" wires I got from Byun Speed.

Come with heat shields and are very stout.

I use these on my V also.

I have measured (four wire method) resistance of MSD and stock against these and they are the lowest in resistance of the three.
We carry all brands of spark plug wires, not just "one" so we can give an opinion on every single one and not sound biased because we just sell "one" wire. We've used them all. Taylor, MSD, stock OEM, GMS and it's all about what works best for you.

The GMS are pretty much the best out there. We have tested our GMS zero ohm resistance wires every year and they still read zero. GMS has a warranty on them also. We run these on three cars we helped build. One is a front mount T76 Camaro 370 CID, one is a ProCharged D-1SC 416 CID Camaro and one is a 347 CID Vortech Camaro. We prefer to use these on boosted forced induction vehicles.

Our retail boxed MSD or Taylor wires would be our second choice.

The GM red stock wires are good also.

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by helga203
I bought these less than a year ago and they went to $hitter IMO not a qaulity wire at all. I'm trying the GM red wires that Bill C. recommends i will not wast my money on wires that don't even last a year.
We had one set of wires made earlier this year that was a total horrible set. We replaced 3 of them and then the customer had issue with a couple of the others and we refunded his money altogether. It was a very bad set and a frustration for the customer. First time that has happened in over 4 years so I think we have done pretty good.

No excuses but the set and a few others were made during a very bad time for myself and I probably should have closed down for a few weeks instead of trying to carry on business. My dad and two personal friends died with in one week all of each other. I was very distracted and had equipment issues as well that went unnoticed and so one or two bad sets got out. I got behind as well because I had to attend to my dads things in Maine and I live in Oregon.... it was a bad earlier half of the year.
I took care of everyone though and we are back on track and have been and have not had a defective report since then. I stand behind my wires and guaranty them for the lifetime. Sorry for your inconveinence.

I dissect wires and know the differences. Its the anatomy of the wire that differentiates one from another.
The double crimp terminal on the spark plug end of the wire that does not fail is the main reason the MSD is better quality. The coil end is the same for all of them

The hi heat silicone.. cant say what the others are rated at but the MSD is 400*F with option to 700*F.. then you have my options for heat protection you can add as well


There is no peformance gain in one brand new wire over another when its 8" long. Wires like plugs degrade over time and some break internally. Cracks from heat effect it as well. I can offer a 0 ohm wire for more money but less than the current offer for 0 ohm wires but there is no reason too. There is no gain in it. I offer MSD because IMO after building and repairing wires from just about all mfgs.. I feel MSD has the best system so thats what we offer. I can offer any wire system in the world, I chose what I know to be the best.

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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 09:27 PM
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helga203 your order was one of the ones made during that time.
Order ID# 177685396Date: 4/25/2011 5:20:34 PM

I made a post in the memoriam section to honor my dad. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/in-l...mouse-dad.html
Maybe I should have taken more time off. Again I am sorry for the inconveinence, you have been refunded.
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helga203 your order was one of the ones made during that time.
Order ID# 177685396Date: 4/25/2011 5:20:34 PM

I made a post in the memoriam section to honor my dad. http://forums.corvetteforum.com/in-l...mouse-dad.html
Maybe I should have taken more time off. Again I am sorry for the inconveinence, you have been refunded.


SALUTE!! Very sorry for your loss and turmoil. Family loss is very tragic.

Well done for standing behind your products and being honest with us.

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