I can't help laughing. This guy got his panties all up in a knot over nothing. What a joke!
I think he is pissed off because I didn't tell him what great guy he is.LOL! or told him, what a great advise he had giving me,LOL!. Please do us all a favor and stay off this thread, Dude!

 

You are a ******!

 

You're a frickin' joke. You've been on this board for little over a year ... I've been over 9 years. I've helped more people on this board in 9 years then you could in a lifetime. BTW ... I don't help dicks.

 

I don't care, stay off! Go away! Go and help some one else!

 

Well, you got your answer to this mysterious question on why synthetic supposedly harms the paper blockers, but now you won't contribute to the board like you accuse others of not doing. Hummm ... quite reveling.

 

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You're a frickin' joke. You've been on this board for a whole 4 months ... I've been here 11 years. I've helped more people on this board in 11 years they you could in a lifetime. BTW ... I don't help dicks.
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You can't add either, what is it 9 year or 11? I've been here since july 2010,I think that's more than 4 months. GO AWAY! Your like a bunch of flying nats.

 

Do a search,but you may not need to since you seems to know everything. I know this because You said so!

 

Sorry 002 ... re-check my post. You were lucky enough to catch that before I caught the error. You're so smart.

 

Hummm ... show me the quote where I claimed that. I knew the answer, but why would I have given it to you based on your attitude ... you wouldn't believe it anyway.

Since you won't contribute for others, I will. Here's some good reading on the subject. Even though this is from a Mustang board, the T56 guts are the same in the Vette.

http://www.svtownersassociation.com/...ead.php?t=6295

Note this quote:
"I spoke with the T-56 expert at Tremec. He said that the Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF is an excellent choice for the T-56, PROVIDED that the T-56 is a 1997 model or newer.

DO NOT run the synthetic ATF in the pre-1997 T-56 units. It will destroy the paper on the blocker rings. And do not run it in a manual trans with brass blocker rings either, because it will ruin those also.

Tremec changed the blocker rings to the carbon fiber type for the 1997 model year and synthetic ATF will not degrade these."

 

paper clips

In light of the original question, I put together a scientific test. Using a 12 oz, clear acrylic fluid tight container (i.e. a cup from Wal Mart) I carefully added 7.5 oz of my favorite brand synthetic fluid (it's way better than any other brand and only available to me). After I stabilized the room temperature to 70.1° and RH to 35%, I, once again carefully, added a paper clip into the container holding the fluid. And the result?

pm me if you want to know.



but here is a little teaser:


which lead to this:


Don't do this at home, unless your home is on some island far away from me.

 

 

Most use the term "synthetic" as if they are all the same (e.g. all synthetic basestocks are the same thing) - they are not. Thus it should not be surprising that some basestocks cause problems with paper blocker rings and some do not.

The API has not come out and defined what is "synthetic", but rather, classified oils into five major groups.

Group I base oils are the least refined of all of the groups. They are usually a mix of different hydrocarbon chains with little or no uniformity. While some automotive oils use these stocks, they are generally used in less demanding applications.

Group II base oils are common in mineral based motor oils. They have fair to good performance in the areas of volatility, oxidation stability, wear prevention and flash/fire points. They have only fair performance in areas such as pour point and cold crank viscosity. Group II base stocks are what the majority of engine oils are made from. 3000 mile oil changes are the norm.

Group III base oils are subjected to the highest level of refining of all the mineral oil stocks. Although not chemically engineered, they offer improved performance in a wide range of areas as well as good molecular uniformity and stability. By definition they are considered a synthesized material and can be used in the production of synthetic and semi-synthetic lubricants. Group III is used in the vast majority of full synthetics or synthetic blends. They are superior to group I and II oils but still have limitations. Some formulations are designed for extended oil changes. Almost all off the shelf synthetics today are Group III.

Group IV are polyalphaolefins (PAO) which are a chemically engineered synthesized basestocks. PAOs offer excellent stability, molecular uniformity and performance over a wide range of lubricating properties. PAO is a much more expensive basestock than the highly refined petroleum oil basestock of Group III.

Group V base oils are also chemically engineered stocks that do not fall into any of the categories previously mentioned. Typical examples of group V stocks are Esters, polyglycols and silicone. Red Line uses an ester basestock.

In this particular case, Group III (mineral oil basestock), Group IV (PAO basestock) and Group V (primarily polyol ester basestock) all have different properties for porous matieral like paper blocker rings or seals.

There are many that use the AMSOIL Torque-Drive Synthetic Transmission Fluid (Product Code ATD1G) in their 99s - the same fluid I use in my 02 Z06.

 

 

I have not read this entire post.

I put Mobil 1 ATF in my 1998 C5 and after 50,000 miles it started grinding when shifting into 5th and 6th gears. I switched to Amsoil ATD synthetic fluid and it IMMEDIATELY stopped the grinding. All has been well for over 45,000 miles since.

Others here have had problems with Mobil 1 ATF and 1997-2000 (paper blocker rings) manual transmissions.

 

Thanks for taking the time and breaking it down. great information. I'm familiarised with Group V and IV as those were type used in aviation,but I didn't know about the others.