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eric have you seen the mount hms is selling its encased in steel they say it will help stop some wheel hop what do you think, 173.00 for it
Any thing that is stiffer than the factory mount and helps reduce side to side movement of the drive train is going to help reduce drive train shake. With that said the best way to eliminate the shake is with a Pfadt brace as it give a wider base which makes it more stable.
Any thing that is stiffer than the factory mount and helps reduce side to side movement of the drive train is going to help reduce drive train shake. With that said the best way to eliminate the shake is with a Pfadt brace as it give a wider base which makes it more stable.
If what you say is true, then why not just eliminate the mount all together and hard mount to the cradle?
If what you say is true, then why not just eliminate the mount all together and hard mount to the cradle?
Im not sure but a 100% rigid mount might cause some high stress points and would most likely transfer a lot of vibration where as a mount that uses both poly and steel or aluminum will help reduce vibrations and be better used on the street. If you take a look at the Pfadt mount it is basically a hard mount if installed and shimmed correctly so it eliminates most of the shake in the rear part of the drive train. Also if you look at solid motor mounts many of them have a joint on which the two ends can move which will allow for a small amount of movement.
Also you cant just mount the diff to the cradle without something in between because of the way it is designed and I couldnt imagine the amount of harmonic vibrations you would get by doing so.
As has already been answered there is 1 transmission mount for the C5.
We offer a C5 Transmission Brace as well which will help mitigate power train shake, which can often be misdiagnosed with the Corvette as wheel hop. There have been some pretty in depth conversations on CorvetteForum over the years as to how our mount works. Through our own testing and the experience of hundreds of happy users we can definitely say that our C5 Transmission brace is an effective way to help with power train shake issues on the Corvette.
yes I thought about your brace but seems to be alot of guys saying there is quite alot of vibration can you speak to that geo.
I have not had any vibration at all with my mount, it did resonate at a very specific rpm for a little while after I installed it but that went away in a very short time. My guess is that it had to settle down kinda like suspension does after you jack your car up or lower it, also I could see there being a vibration if you do not shim the brace correctly and there is some slop between the poly mounts and the cradle.
Also you cant just mount the diff to the cradle without something in between because of the way it is designed and I couldnt imagine the amount of harmonic vibrations you would get by doing so.
Interesting. I wonder how Pratt & Miller gets away with doing this on their American Le Mans Series Corvettes?
Interesting. I wonder how Pratt & Miller gets away with doing this on their American Le Mans Series Corvettes?
Unless they are using a different cradle I dont see how you can just bolt the diff to the rear cradle as there is about 3 inches in between the two as it sits now. Another thing is they are race cars not intended for street driving and dont care about vibrations or noise.
Id love to see some pictures or assembly drawings of the rear diff and cradle of the race cars if you have any. Im not saying you are incorrect I just dont see how it would work.
Unless they are using a different cradle I dont see how you can just bolt the diff to the rear cradle as there is about 3 inches in between the two as it sits now. Another thing is they are race cars not intended for street driving and dont care about vibrations or noise.
Id love to see some pictures or assembly drawings of the rear diff and cradle of the race cars if you have any. Im not saying you are incorrect I just dont see how it would work.
My whole point of my brief comments, there is more to designing a mount than most folks appreciate. It is ALWAYS a compromising endeavor. As far as Pratt & Miller, their priority list I’m sure has WINNING at the top. With that in mind I expect durability to be second followed closely by mass. I’m confident that the vibration transfer function is on the list too. I would expect to find noise at the bottom. When designing a mount, the priorities depend on the use. Buying a pre-made bolt-on mount is NO guarantee it will work for your intended use or the results will be the same on all vehicles.
In the application I sited in the earlier post, there is no cradle. There is a frame front to rear that the engine and drivetrain are hard mounted. No elastomers involved.
My whole point of my brief comments, there is more to designing a mount than most folks appreciate. It is ALWAYS a compromising endeavor. As far as Pratt & Miller, their priority list I’m sure has WINNING at the top. With that in mind I expect durability to be second followed closely by mass. I’m confident that the vibration transfer function is on the list too. I would expect to find noise at the bottom. When designing a mount, the priorities depend on the use. Buying a pre-made bolt-on mount is NO guarantee it will work for your intended use or the results will be the same on all vehicles.
In the application I sited in the earlier post, there is no cradle. There is a frame front to rear that the engine and drivetrain are hard mounted. No elastomers involved.
Yes I know its always give and take and while I dont know the entire process of R&D for designing new products but I do know there is a lot more going on than what appears. Im also aware that not every vehicle reacts exactly the same to the same modification.
I guess I was heading in the right direction saying that the stiffer the mount the more advantageous it is as hey dont use anything on the race cars.