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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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CLB FAILURE car stranded again

I had a Corvettes of Houston clb installed in my 1998 c4 last year after having problems. The car just died after going to Harbor Freight to look at toys. I had it flat bedded to my house for the second time.
I put in
second brand new battery, (first qualified Delco leaked under battery box)
new ignition switch
cleaned all grounds
pulled fuses and waited
tried a second CLB from Corvettes of Houston
bought a spare BCM to try
finally Hp tuned so the 2mph cut off was gone

I’ve had the factory recalls, the column will not lock.

I drove the car for the whole summer putting the key in the switch twice to get rid Of “Pull Key and Wait 10 Sec” and then pushed reset to clear service column lock, every time I started it. The CLB from Corvettes of Houston did not fix the problem. It seems everybody thinks if you put the clb in your car you are all done, nothing more to discuss about this subject, stop talking. Why do people keep talking about this, just install a clb. THIS ANSWER WILL NOT FIX ALL.
It seems you have to have everything working correctly before you install the clb, this is not always the case.

The final answer was on Corvette Forum, a new vender called:
Compliance Parts, LLC
22631 Pacific Coast Hwy, #423
Malibu, CA 90265
(855) 565-8388
That's (855) LM5-VETTE ask for Richard

I am not affiliated with this company at all, (wish I was) other than wanting to spend more money with them. I have spent hours tracing wires and testing voltage to try and correct this problem. They make a product call LMC5 module. It’s a little different; it works from the bcm and eliminates all the circuitry that is still in the car, disabled in function, as I understand.
Craig Tomofy from C-Tronics IN Syracuse N.Y., installed it in my car and it is perfect. There are no more codes. They even state it doesn’t matter if you already have a malfunction or it is working fine when you install it. They also say it doesn’t matter what the battery voltage is as long as there is enough power to start the car. They were correct and I am thrilled to trust the car, like you should be able to do. Make no mistake, this item is different than the COH item, but it works unbelievably BETTER!
No codes, who cares about the battery voltage if it is ½ volt off, eliminate the finicky electrical system problems. The column must be unlocked. This is very different from the process with the Corvettes of Houston clb.
I think the most important part is I finally have peace with my car, after many people just said “buy a clb and your problems are over”, they weren't.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:10 PM
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Ive had a COH CLB in for 7 years now never had a problem and had no problems before installing it either first 2 years from new. Its all luck of the draw and I just installed CLB cause it was free not because I had a problem. Too many people have COH/other manufactures devices with no problems to call it a repeating occurrence of a bad design product.

Some cars just have problems from the get go electrically and some dont. CLB's work much more than they dont.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 03:31 PM
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Maybe he's protesting the 1% group...no, not the uber wealthy, the 1% that has a CLB ultimately fail.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
Maybe he's protesting the 1% group...no, not the uber wealthy, the 1% that has a CLB ultimately fail.
Not a 99%er?.....Sorry
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 07:55 AM
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Take the column apart and remove the locking pins
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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I had problem with CLB's for 3 years I went with the LMC5 and it worked great.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VGLNTE1
Take the column apart and remove the locking pins
I stated the column does not lock. What is the purpose of removing the locking pins? Do you feel they are causing the codes? I am just stating a fact that all the fixes I tried on this forum still did not fix the error codes. My problem may have been different although the car was not left stranded the error codes day in and day out are very frustrating.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 540 vette
I had problem with CLB's for 3 years I went with the LMC5 and it worked great.
Thank you 540 vette, maybe just yours and mine had the same problem. I want to be clear that I said finally I had hp tuner change the cut off (meaning AFTER two times being stranded) there was never a stranding again, just codes.
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Quote: I am just stating a fact that all the fixes I tried on this forum still did not fix the error codes. End Quote:

So sue the forum! I'm not saying every thing on this forum is true or will fix the problem every time but it has helped me many times and will probably help me again

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Originally Posted by gotz06?
Quote: I am just stating a fact that all the fixes I tried on this forum still did not fix the error codes. End Quote:

So sue the forum! I'm not saying every thing on this forum is true or will fix the problem every time but it has helped me many times and will probably help me again
This forum is an awesome source of information, probably the best in the world, I apologize if I have implied anything else. I just wanted to state for other users there is a continuing problem that was not fixed with MY car. I thought that was the purpose of the forum, again I apologize if I offended anyone.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jffacets
This forum is an awesome source of information, probably the best in the world, I apologize if I have implied anything else. I just wanted to state for other users there is a continuing problem that was not fixed with MY car. I thought that was the purpose of the forum, again I apologize if I offended anyone.
I think the purpose of your post, was to alert anyone who has gone down the road you've traveled, that you found a fix for YOURS. PERIOD!

If the column lock bypass worked each and every time......why would we need the fix you used?

Some folks are not happy you wandered off the beaten path. But it is YOUR car and YOU are the one that's dealing with the problem. If it works for you, then by all means, it was meant for you. And I say Bravo!

Having peace of mind is ultimately a goal of everyone. I truly never trusted the fix a flat and plug kit in my Z06, and low and behold on I-10 in El Paso.........I had a catastrophic tire failure and was stranded for hours out in the desert and was financially raped by a Goodyear tire dealer for one tire.

Don't tell anyone but those Supercar F1s were replaced with runflats, Now I felt I had some power over yes, a rare happenstance, but at least I had some feeling of peace of mind to take my car outside city limits and use the car for enjoyment.

I think your whole purpose in your post was: YOU NOW HAVE PEACE OF MIND..............

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I don't see the need to apologize.

We all can't take the same path, some of us need to create our own.
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Thunder Racing CLB installed in 2004, (only GM recall #1 performed without my consent)...still works!
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by azmusclecar
I think the purpose of your post, was to alert anyone who has gone down the road you've traveled, that you found a fix for YOURS. PERIOD!

If the column lock bypass worked each and every time......why would we need the fix you used?

Some folks are not happy you wandered off the beaten path. But it is YOUR car and YOU are the one that's dealing with the problem. If it works for you, then by all means, it was meant for you. And I say Bravo!

Having peace of mind is ultimately a goal of everyone. I truly never trusted the fix a flat and plug kit in my Z06, and low and behold on I-10 in El Paso.........I had a catastrophic tire failure and was stranded for hours out in the desert and was financially raped by a Goodyear tire dealer for one tire.

Don't tell anyone but those Supercar F1s were replaced with runflats, Now I felt I had some power over yes, a rare happenstance, but at least I had some feeling of peace of mind to take my car outside city limits and use the car for enjoyment.

I think your whole purpose in your post was: YOU NOW HAVE PEACE OF MIND..............

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong but I don't see the need to apologize.

We all can't take the same path, some of us need to create our own.
Thank you Azmusclecar, that’s exactly what I was trying to say. I just started my car for the fifth time, WITH NO ERROR CODES!! What an awesome car! I just bought two more LMC5’s to give to two garages in Syracuse…….
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I don't understand all the hate on the LMC5 from the CLB folks. Sure, if you installed the CLB and its working great for you, that's awesome and it's a great thing that it's doing its job. Now, there is a new product out there that does a similar job but possibly does it better as it gets rid of the messages that the CLB doesn't always get rid of - you'd think that'd be a win-win. Yet, I've seen a lot of posts from folks who love their CLB hating on those who are installing the LMC5, as if it were somehow an inferior product (which it MAY be, but we won't know until more people install it and possible problems occur).

I'm actually starting to think that its jealousy that these people spent more money on the CLB and more time installing it and now a new product comes out that is cheaper, works better (knock on wood, mine's still working great after a week), and is easier to install, but I hope I'm wrong on that.
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Originally Posted by Trios
I don't understand all the hate on the LMC5 from the CLB folks. Sure, if you installed the CLB and its working great for you, that's awesome and it's a great thing that it's doing its job. Now, there is a new product out there that does a similar job but possibly does it better as it gets rid of the messages that the CLB doesn't always get rid of - you'd think that'd be a win-win. Yet, I've seen a lot of posts from folks who love their CLB hating on those who are installing the LMC5, as if it were somehow an inferior product (which it MAY be, but we won't know until more people install it and possible problems occur).

I'm actually starting to think that its jealousy that these people spent more money on the CLB and more time installing it and now a new product comes out that is cheaper, works better (knock on wood, mine's still working great after a week), and is easier to install, but I hope I'm wrong on that.
Very well said. It's called progress. I have a C.O.H. CLB. It works fine. However the LMC5 sounds like a great alternative.

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Originally Posted by Ikester
Thunder Racing CLB installed in 2004, (only GM recall #1 performed without my consent)...still works!
it's posts such as this that add nothing to this thread except your own personal celebratory notation that YOU have never had the problem...........

I always wonder why people do this? This thread is NOT about your success....it's about someone else's problem....

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Are you off your meds again Rob?
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
Are you off your meds again Rob?
I must be JW............. I'll just delete my previous post.....and realize I was wrong to even question what I questioned........
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I too have a 98 and the CLB may or may not work correctly because of the timing of the signal in the 97s and 98's. There is a warning for this.

Thunder racing offers a refund if it doesn't work on the 97-98 models.
Mine occasionally misfired but other than that, it's been trouble free.

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Originally Posted by jffacets
CLB FAILURE car stranded again

I had a Corvettes of Houston clb installed in my 1998 c4 last year after having problems. The car just died after going to Harbor Freight to look at toys. I had it flat bedded to my house for the second time.
I put in
second brand new battery, (first qualified Delco leaked under battery box)
new ignition switch
cleaned all grounds
pulled fuses and waited
tried a second CLB from Corvettes of Houston
bought a spare BCM to try
finally Hp tuned so the 2mph cut off was gone

I’ve had the factory recalls, the column will not lock.

I drove the car for the whole summer putting the key in the switch twice to get rid Of “Pull Key and Wait 10 Sec” and then pushed reset to clear service column lock, every time I started it. The CLB from Corvettes of Houston did not fix the problem. It seems everybody thinks if you put the clb in your car you are all done, nothing more to discuss about this subject, stop talking. Why do people keep talking about this, just install a clb. THIS ANSWER WILL NOT FIX ALL.
It seems you have to have everything working correctly before you install the clb, this is not always the case.

The final answer was on Corvette Forum, a new vender called:
Compliance Parts, LLC
22631 Pacific Coast Hwy, #423
Malibu, CA 90265
(855) 565-8388
That's (855) LM5-VETTE ask for Richard

I am not affiliated with this company at all, (wish I was) other than wanting to spend more money with them. I have spent hours tracing wires and testing voltage to try and correct this problem. They make a product call LMC5 module. It’s a little different; it works from the bcm and eliminates all the circuitry that is still in the car, disabled in function, as I understand.
Craig Tomofy from C-Tronics IN Syracuse N.Y., installed it in my car and it is perfect. There are no more codes. They even state it doesn’t matter if you already have a malfunction or it is working fine when you install it. They also say it doesn’t matter what the battery voltage is as long as there is enough power to start the car. They were correct and I am thrilled to trust the car, like you should be able to do. Make no mistake, this item is different than the COH item, but it works unbelievably BETTER!
No codes, who cares about the battery voltage if it is ½ volt off, eliminate the finicky electrical system problems. The column must be unlocked. This is very different from the process with the Corvettes of Houston clb.
I think the most important part is I finally have peace with my car, after many people just said “buy a clb and your problems are over”, they weren't.
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