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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I have a 2002 Z06. When I place the shifter in 3rd gear, I can move the entire shift assembly left or right. If I pull the shifter to the left towards the driver side, the shifter will almost touch the console. If I then push the shifter up into neutral, I cannot get to 1st or 2nd gear.

If I then place the shifter in 3rd, I can reposition the shift assembly in the middle and 1st and 2nd gear are accessable again.



I have never observed this behavior on a manual transmission before.



Is this a shifter problem?

Is this a linkage problem?

Is this a transmission problem?

Something else?



A little history. This problem started a little over a month after having the transmission, clutch and thowout bearing assembly replaced. It has been this way for 3 weeks.



I am working with the mechanic who replaced the trans. I am trying to be helpful since he does not work on that many Vettes.



Thanks,

pat
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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As a guess, I'd say the bolt that retains the shifting rod is loose. You have to pull off the console and shift boot(s) to see the mechanism. There's a single shaft that controls your gear changes, and it's retained by torx head screw(s).
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by zeevette
As a guess, I'd say the bolt that retains the shifting rod is loose. You have to pull off the console and shift boot(s) to see the mechanism. There's a single shaft that controls your gear changes, and it's retained by torx head screw(s).
I would think this is the problem, also if there is any kind of oil film at all on the output shaft of the shifter box that goes in the clamp,it will not tighten and grip enough to stop from slipping,need to wipe it down with alcohol and reinsert the bolt and tighten.

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by walleyejack
I would think this is the problem, also if there is any kind of oil film at all on the output shaft of the shifter box that goes in the clamp,it will not tighten and grip enough to stop from slipping,need to wipe it down with alcohol and reinsert the bolt and tighten.

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OK how? But first, where is this bolt? Is it at the shifter or at the transmission? Can I get at it when the console is removed or do I have to drop the rear and torque tube again?

Here is an observation. I can't figure out how this could be a rotational slipage unless there is a groove all the way around the shaft that would allow the rotational slippage but at the same time prevent any vertical slippage. If it were a loose bolt pushing on a cylindrical shaft, the movement would not be restricted to just rotational. I would anticpate slippage along the length of the shaft also. But that is not what I observe. The shifter's H pattern seems to work fine. Provided it has enough room to operate. Sorry if that is an incomprehensible explanation.

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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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OK how? But first, where is this bolt? Is it at the shifter or at the transmission? Can I get at it when the console is removed or do I have to drop the rear and torque tube again?

Here is an observation. I can't figure out how this could be a rotational slipage unless there is a groove all the way around the shaft that would allow the rotational slippage but at the same time prevent any vertical slippage. If it were a loose bolt pushing on a cylindrical shaft, the movement would not be restricted to just rotational. I would anticpate slippage along the length of the shaft also. But that is not what I observe. The shifter's H pattern seems to work fine. Provided it has enough room to operate. Sorry if that is an incomprehensible explanation.

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you have to take the console out, the center piece out and observe the movement when you move the shifter around, the outshaft will rotate even tho the the bolt is in the slotted shaft. I know this. Even tho you think it is only a slot in the shaft. there is plenty of room for it to rotate.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:31 PM
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Thanks. I will be taking it apart tomorrow afternoon.
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mpdillon
Thanks. I will be taking it apart tomorrow afternoon.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1571151292-post2.html

Here you go.
Look at these two proceedures, more so, the second one.
Good luck.
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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 12:04 AM
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Most likely the FOUR screws that secure shifter to the shift box are LOOSE or the TWO fasteners that secure the shift box to the Torque Tube are loose:






If it were me,, I would get a better shifter!

KIRBAN.

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