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Old Feb 28, 2012 | 11:38 PM
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I don't know what else to call it so I will call it steering hunt, or darting. My C5 has 40k miles and darts in the low areas of asphalt that is a result of wear in the travel lane of a highway. It is very annoying and can be dangerous. Before I take this car to an alignment "professional", I would like to know what typically causes this behavior. Tires are wearing perfectly, inflation is spot on, and it steers great on flat roads. Looking for education, please. Thanks.
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I have the same issue. Oregon allows studded tires, and they create BAD ruts. So I know exactly what you mean.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 12:47 AM
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Mine does the same thing. The road has to be bad enough you can see the "ruts" for it to do it though. I wouldn't say mine is dangerous, but it makes me pay more attention on roads like that.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:54 AM
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Tire experts call it tramling see this thread
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=47
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 02:36 AM
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The OEM runflats are well known for "tramlining" due to the stiff sidewalls. I replaced the OEMs with Michelin AS ZPs and it improved significantly.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 04:50 AM
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If you are running the oem runflats than that might be the problem. Otherwise check your tie rod ends. If they wear out this is often times the symptom.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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One word: runflats. I agree with the others. The OEM runflats are horrible. They become worse as they age. I had a hard time keeping my car pointed straight on grooved and/or imperfect road sections. Once I changed over to conventional performance tires (Hankook V12), the problem completely disappeared. My car now rides straight and true with very little steering input.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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Tramlining. I had it bad on my old PZeros. Replaced them with Invo's and got an alignment and the tramlining is gone completely.
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there is an adjustment on the rack, refer the shop manual

but looks like it's the tires as posted above

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Originally Posted by pluslt
Tramlining. I had it bad on my old PZeros. Replaced them with Invo's and got an alignment and the tramlining is gone completely.
P ZEROS were the absolute WORST aftermarket tire that I ever owned!

A proper alignment should be able to eliminate most of your issue. With very wide tires, it is never completely eliminated. Before your alignment, do a very detailed check of all your suspension components and wheel bearing.

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Originally Posted by SteveDotenMotorsports
there is an adjustment on the rack, refer the shop manual

but looks like it's the tires as posted above

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An adjustment for what?
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Had the same problem, and the colder the day the worse it was. I haven't had the car long, and when I checked to date code on the front tires, they were the originals. Yikes! 11 year-old tires!! Have just installed the Ventus V12s and the problem is gone.
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Old Feb 29, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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Wider tires (especially run-flats) are more prone to tram-lining. Non-runflats and an alignment with a bit more caster helps a lot. Some roads/streets however are just so bad you can't do much with our fat tires.
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Originally Posted by capors crossfire
I don't know what else to call it so I will call it steering hunt, or darting. My C5 has 40k miles and darts in the low areas of asphalt that is a result of wear in the travel lane of a highway. It is very annoying and can be dangerous. Before I take this car to an alignment "professional", I would like to know what typically causes this behavior. Tires are wearing perfectly, inflation is spot on, and it steers great on flat roads. Looking for education, please. Thanks.
June of 2009 I purchased a 2003 Z06 with 26k miles. I immediately noticed the darting around on road imperfections and where the highway was grooved from alot of heavy oil trucks. The dealer said they all steer that way because of the wide tires. Three years later with only 32k on the car the tires have wore evenly and I still haven't gotten used to the dartiness. On hard acceleration the car is very dangerous and I will absolutely not let anyone else try driving it. The car has PS2 tires on all four corners and the date codes are from 05/06 if I remember correctly. All video's on youtube show cars driving straight with no steering corrections whatsoever track or street. I guess I will get an alignment this spring. Any suggestions for alignment specs for a non-aggressive driver?

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Originally Posted by RonSSNova
An adjustment for what?
As mentioned before check the tie rods at all 4 corners. The Service Preferred Alignment Settings are set toward the performance side. In this chart from a C5 Service Manual toe out is shown as positive while toe in is shown as negative. You want toe in in the rear or the car will be very twitchy. As you can see from the chart the front toe is biased a little toward toe out. Your car may have 0 front toe or some toe out. Try just a little front toe in. As you can -.04 front toe would still be in spec. I found on my C5s and my C6Z that some front toe in usually greatly reduces the tramlining.





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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:11 AM
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Wow. This has been a great thread. Thank you all for great suggestions. I may still have original run flat tires, not really sure how to check that but I will. Great alignment chart Bill. Nice to have that so I can tell the alignment "professional" how I want it done.
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Originally Posted by capors crossfire
I may still have original run flat tires, not really sure how to check that but I will.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4621263_read...ate-codes.html
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