best modifications for throttle response?
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Take a look at www.sprintbooster.gr I installed one on my Mercedes. It has three positions accessed by a lighted button. They are Factory set, (no light on) green light and red light. It makes your drive by wire respond faster, it connects between your throttle pedal and the actuator moter. Takes three minutes to install at the pedal connector. Makes a BIG difference and does not effect the factory warrenty. I love mine and will get another one for my Vette.
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From: Anthony TX
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St. Jude Donor '08
COW Booster is a CUSTOM tune which in my opinion is a hell of a lot more sense than a module.
You will get more out of a custom tune than any plug in module!!
BC
You will get more out of a custom tune than any plug in module!!
BC
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This is a screen shot of the table that controls the throttle from my HP Tuners software. This table is in your PCM and is what the computer uses to convert the accelerator peddle position to the throttle plate in the TB. This one has been modifed to "speed up" how fast the throttle responds.
This one is stock
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Yea, I think i just need to get a tune and be happy with it for a while. Trying to come up with a list for my tuner to look at.
I currently have:
02 coupe with 2.73 gears (love the fuel economy from those)
Honker intake, Shaner S2 throttle body, LG super pro headers, Borla exhaust.
My tuner already has me in his computer for a PCV correction and I think he got rid of torque management. I think with a good street-tune and a more linear throttle curve i could get a lot more fun out of it for a little while i save up money for the fun stuff.
I currently have:
02 coupe with 2.73 gears (love the fuel economy from those)
Honker intake, Shaner S2 throttle body, LG super pro headers, Borla exhaust.
My tuner already has me in his computer for a PCV correction and I think he got rid of torque management. I think with a good street-tune and a more linear throttle curve i could get a lot more fun out of it for a little while i save up money for the fun stuff.
I'm not sure what you mean by "module"
This is a screen shot of the table that controls the throttle from my HP Tuners software. This table is in your PCM and is what the computer uses to convert the accelerator peddle position to the throttle plate in the TB. This one has been modifed to "speed up" how fast the throttle responds.
This one is stock
This is a screen shot of the table that controls the throttle from my HP Tuners software. This table is in your PCM and is what the computer uses to convert the accelerator peddle position to the throttle plate in the TB. This one has been modifed to "speed up" how fast the throttle responds.
This one is stock
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From: Anthony TX
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Well........ What PVC corrections? Torque management removal is a good change. If thats all you got,, I hope you didn't pay much.
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
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Well........ What PVC corrections? Torque management removal is a good change. If thats all you got,, I hope you didn't pay much.
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
Sorry not PCV, it was the AIR system. Had it turned off. Didn't pay hardly anything for it since no "tuning" was done. This is probably the most amount of go-fast modifications I'm going to have for a little while so i'm comfortable getting a tune to last for at least a year or so.
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Yea, I think i just need to get a tune and be happy with it for a while. Trying to come up with a list for my tuner to look at.
I currently have:
02 coupe with 2.73 gears (love the fuel economy from those)
Honker intake, Shaner S2 throttle body, LG super pro headers, Borla exhaust.
My tuner already has me in his computer for a PCV correction and I think he got rid of torque management. I think with a good street-tune and a more linear throttle curve i could get a lot more fun out of it for a little while i save up money for the fun stuff.
I currently have:
02 coupe with 2.73 gears (love the fuel economy from those)
Honker intake, Shaner S2 throttle body, LG super pro headers, Borla exhaust.
My tuner already has me in his computer for a PCV correction and I think he got rid of torque management. I think with a good street-tune and a more linear throttle curve i could get a lot more fun out of it for a little while i save up money for the fun stuff.
It's like snake oil
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Well........ What PVC corrections? Torque management removal is a good change. If thats all you got,, I hope you didn't pay much.
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
The BEST situation for performance increases/ fuel efficiency and tuning enhancements is:
Do ALL the performance mods that you can afford. Get an on the road comprehensive tune from a respective tuner familiar with GM LS Engines.
The secret to a good tune is a successful VE and MAF tune.
Any tuner worth SALT can turn off the easy stuff.
It takes a PRO with a good wide band O2 monitor to adjust your Power enrichment tables, make the proper VE and MAF adjustments and adjust timing to optimize performance and limit Knock Retard. KR.
Tuning a big cam can also be a challenge for the novice. There are NUMEROUS idle table that need to be blended and changed and Idle AIR adjustments.
We wont even discuss POWER ADDERS (boost and NO2)
BC
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http://ls1tuningguide.com/tuningmanu...ons%20rev3.pdf
A dyno is just another tool you can use.
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From: Anthony TX
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Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, It doesn't add 75 HP but,,,,,, it does add a SH(% EATEN GRIN on your face when you touch the throttle with your foot!
I can attest to that!!! i WOULD NOT say it made a difference if it didn't really make a difference!Its a true enhancement and my WIFE really enjoys her COW Booster on her car! Chuck did it at the last Carslile.
Instant gratification!!
Oh by the way,, The COW BOOSTER is NOT a module... Its a COW installed Software change to the PCM/ECU. NOT Replicated by a plug in module
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I'm not sure what you mean by "module"
This is a screen shot of the table that controls the throttle from my HP Tuners software. This table is in your PCM and is what the computer uses to convert the accelerator peddle position to the throttle plate in the TB. This one has been modifed to "speed up" how fast the throttle responds.
This is a screen shot of the table that controls the throttle from my HP Tuners software. This table is in your PCM and is what the computer uses to convert the accelerator peddle position to the throttle plate in the TB. This one has been modifed to "speed up" how fast the throttle responds.
I assume your is a later car?
Ron
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The throttle tables.....
If you take it too far, you'll permanently kill the pcm.
Only fool with it if you know what you are doing.
For Can-Bus controllers like in the late trucks, camaros, and C6 corvette
CoW BOOSTER is the only way to do it.
HP TUNERS does not have the smoothing ability to allow for the correct resolution
to make throttle adjustments safely for C6s.
The ETC #'s are SOOOO VERY SENSITIVE and you need to be VERY careful when making adjustments.
Call me any time if you have questions.
Chuck CoW
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St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
and of course good tuning
Last edited by 99blancoss; Mar 23, 2012 at 12:25 PM.
