Do I need a full retune
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Racer
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From: MILTON FL
Do I need a full retune
Posted this over in Scan/Tune. Obviously the wrong place.
I had H/C/I CAI and Headers installed a few months ago. My idle is all screwed up. I have no confidence in the local tuner being able to fix then problem I'm having of the rolling hanging idle, high in gear idle etc. My question is do I need a full tune if I install a Fast 92/90? Will I damage the car if I drove it 4-5 hours to get a good tune after the intake install. I want a street tune I'm interested in the drivability of my car rather than how well the car dyno.
The car is a 98 A4 with a 224-230 114 cam
If you know of a good tuner within 4-5 hours of Pensacola I'd be interested.
Appreciate any feedback
I had H/C/I CAI and Headers installed a few months ago. My idle is all screwed up. I have no confidence in the local tuner being able to fix then problem I'm having of the rolling hanging idle, high in gear idle etc. My question is do I need a full tune if I install a Fast 92/90? Will I damage the car if I drove it 4-5 hours to get a good tune after the intake install. I want a street tune I'm interested in the drivability of my car rather than how well the car dyno.
The car is a 98 A4 with a 224-230 114 cam
If you know of a good tuner within 4-5 hours of Pensacola I'd be interested.
Appreciate any feedback
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Posted this over in Scan/Tune. Obviously the wrong place.
I had H/C/I CAI and Headers installed a few months ago. My idle is all screwed up. I have no confidence in the local tuner being able to fix then problem I'm having of the rolling hanging idle, high in gear idle etc. My question is do I need a full tune if I install a Fast 92/90? Will I damage the car if I drove it 4-5 hours to get a good tune after the intake install. I want a street tune I'm interested in the drivability of my car rather than how well the car dyno.
The car is a 98 A4 with a 224-230 114 cam
If you know of a good tuner within 4-5 hours of Pensacola I'd be interested.
Appreciate any feedback
I had H/C/I CAI and Headers installed a few months ago. My idle is all screwed up. I have no confidence in the local tuner being able to fix then problem I'm having of the rolling hanging idle, high in gear idle etc. My question is do I need a full tune if I install a Fast 92/90? Will I damage the car if I drove it 4-5 hours to get a good tune after the intake install. I want a street tune I'm interested in the drivability of my car rather than how well the car dyno.
The car is a 98 A4 with a 224-230 114 cam
If you know of a good tuner within 4-5 hours of Pensacola I'd be interested.
Appreciate any feedback
Sorry for your troubles but yes, you obviously need a tune. Why won't the "local" guy help? What configuration on your car did he tune?
Maybe more info might helps us help you,,,
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Racer
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From: MILTON FL
The shop that did the work used their tuner. After taking it back for a couple issues with the tune, I lost confidence in the shop being able to properly tune the car. When the tuner told me that Automatics are hard to tune and I should stall the car and it will take care of my idle issues. I really researched my set up and it doesn't need a stall although I plan to stall the car later I want It' tuned correctly before I go screwing witht the transmission and shift points etc.
I'm going to find another tuner just wanted to know if i would need a full retune for an Intake manifold and TB swap.
I'm going to find another tuner just wanted to know if i would need a full retune for an Intake manifold and TB swap.
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Racer
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From: MILTON FL
Forgot to add what was done to the car.
The shop installed.
AFR205 Heads
ARH 1 7/8
CAM 224-230 114
VRB2 CAI
LS6 Intake
Full Dyno Tune
Issues:
Car Idles great in Park
Idle hang @1200 when rolling and in neutral.
Car Pulls through the brakes when shifting into rev or drive
I can put the car in drive and not touch the throttle and the car will go 40MPH
It doesn't take off but it will get up to 40 MPH with no Throttle input
Thanks
The shop installed.
AFR205 Heads
ARH 1 7/8
CAM 224-230 114
VRB2 CAI
LS6 Intake
Full Dyno Tune
Issues:
Car Idles great in Park
Idle hang @1200 when rolling and in neutral.
Car Pulls through the brakes when shifting into rev or drive
I can put the car in drive and not touch the throttle and the car will go 40MPH
It doesn't take off but it will get up to 40 MPH with no Throttle input
Thanks
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The '97 and '98 ECM is a little more difficult to tune than the later C5s, but it can certainly be properly done to make your 224/230 cam have good street manners. But I really do think you need to get that higher stall converter sooner rather than later. It will be difficult to get good street manners with a tight stock converter, and the higher stall converter will make a huge improvement in your car's performance.
To answer your question - yes you can drive the car with an upgraded 92mm FAST intake/TB. Certainly don't run it hard until you get it tuned. It may have a lot of trouble idling, just hard to say until you try.
To answer your question - yes you can drive the car with an upgraded 92mm FAST intake/TB. Certainly don't run it hard until you get it tuned. It may have a lot of trouble idling, just hard to say until you try.
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
An LS6 Intake and TB wont necessarily need a tune but your tune sounds like it never was correct.
CAM 224-230 114
If your going thru all the expense and trouble of getting a RETUNE, call Jeremy Formato and get his EXPERT recommendations.
If he recommends a higher stall converter,, DO IT!
It will make your car drive so much better. BC
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St. Jude Donor '12
Issues:
Car Idles great in Park
Idle hang @1200 when rolling and in neutral.
Car Pulls through the brakes when shifting into rev or drive
I can put the car in drive and not touch the throttle and the car will go 40MPH
It doesn't take off but it will get up to 40 MPH with no Throttle input
Thanks
Car Idles great in Park
Idle hang @1200 when rolling and in neutral.
Car Pulls through the brakes when shifting into rev or drive
I can put the car in drive and not touch the throttle and the car will go 40MPH
It doesn't take off but it will get up to 40 MPH with no Throttle input
Thanks
It can be difficult to get the automatics tuned perfectly the first time. There are more settings and every car responds to mods a little differently. Those problems should be handled easily and if the tuner is worth their salt, the will get it done.
Last edited by chaase; Mar 22, 2012 at 02:05 PM.
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Racer
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From: MILTON FL
How do I get a hold of Jeremy Formato? What part of FL. is he located in?
I do plan to stall the car but I want it properly tuned first. All the stall will do is mask my current issues. I do understand that the older A4s are tougher to tune.
I do worry about stalling the car and start having other issues.
Thanks!
I do plan to stall the car but I want it properly tuned first. All the stall will do is mask my current issues. I do understand that the older A4s are tougher to tune.
I do worry about stalling the car and start having other issues.
Thanks!
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From: Anthony TX
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St. Jude Donor '08
NOTE!! When you add a higher stall converter, you will need to tune the PCM AGAIN!! All the PCM transmission calibration characteristics will need to be re-calibrated to the new stall speed converter. Shift points, line pressures shift firmness etc...
Jeremy wont care if you have a new converter or not to tune it correctly If he is going to tune your car, he will most likely flash in a PCM program that already incorporates the MODs that you have from a library that he maintains and will only have to fine tune the PCM from there.
Give him a list of the mods that you have installed and the converter specs and it will be correct!
Heres a post that you can use to PM him:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...r-23-29-a.html
http://www.fasterproms.net/ Or this site..
Jeremy wont care if you have a new converter or not to tune it correctly If he is going to tune your car, he will most likely flash in a PCM program that already incorporates the MODs that you have from a library that he maintains and will only have to fine tune the PCM from there.
Give him a list of the mods that you have installed and the converter specs and it will be correct!
Heres a post that you can use to PM him:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-s...r-23-29-a.html
http://www.fasterproms.net/ Or this site..
Burning Brakes
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From: LaPorte Indiana
like others have suggested i would def look into a stall and if your feeling froggy i would add a set of 342's out back to maximize the combo. send me a pm if you would like to sell the ls6 intake if you find a fast setup
