C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

spark plug wire help!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:54 AM
  #1  
bob22z06's Avatar
bob22z06
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 548
Likes: 8
From: Lexington KY
Default spark plug wire help!!

Hey ,anyone reading this ....I was in the process of removing my stock manifolds last week because getting ready to throw some LT on ....so I was pulling the plug wires out , driver side went some how ok ....they were stuck on them good...so started the pass side also I started useing some kind of needle nose wise grips I just couldn't get my big hand around the sockets ..and this happened was pulling the first wire ....and NO I wasn't pulling by the wire I grab it by the sleeve so worst comes to worst my wise grip slips and rips outer coating of the wire I look at it It didn't look like it went deep......

Am I in trouble now ? Should I replace the wires ? Along with a plugs ......it's a Denso brand plugs ...I also checked them they were kind of whiteish color ...so I go to this performance shop here in town I told him about the plugs being white than he tells me" that if plugs white means your car running lean" ....I never heard of that ...is that true?

My Z only has 20k on the clock ....Is there any particular brand u guys recommend Like NGK ,MSD ....or other ....
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 01:30 AM
  #2  
baxsom's Avatar
baxsom
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 235
From: Rockledge FL
Default

very common to destroy the wires when you pull them off. nothing better than the GMPP red wires. regardless of what the advertisements say.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:30 AM
  #3  
yaknow's Avatar
yaknow
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 7,206
Likes: 311
From: Lino Lakes MN
Default

get the gm red tops
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:33 AM
  #4  
DeeGee's Avatar
DeeGee
Tech Contributor
20 Year Member
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 19,384
Likes: 87
From: Horncastle Lincolnshire, England
2023 C5 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

I replaced my plugs and wires in 2008. I'd say it's almost impossible to get the old wires off without damage, particularly the rear ones. Even if they come off OK it's such a struggle that who knows what damage occurs.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ion-wires.html

I'd say go with new wires and Like baxsom I fitted GMPP reds and NGK TR 55 plugs.

In my experience, white plugs are nothing to worry about. Its black fouled plugs that worry me but I'm no expert on that.

Last edited by DeeGee; Apr 13, 2012 at 02:36 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:05 AM
  #5  
vettenuts's Avatar
vettenuts
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 22,025
Likes: 192
From: At the beach in little Rhody
Default

Yep, the stockers were real buggers to get off. I went with the C6 Z06 wires from GM. They are red and have a 90 end which works great with headers. If you are only doing plugs, I would go with NGK TR5's.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:35 AM
  #6  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Another vote here for the GMPP red wires.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:52 AM
  #7  
lakelaw's Avatar
lakelaw
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
From: Leesburg Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Another vote here for the GMPP red wires.


Just did mine and agree with GMPP wires and NGK. Don't know how you would get the wires off without damage.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:59 AM
  #8  
RonR80's Avatar
RonR80
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,622
Likes: 242
From: Russell Ontario
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

I used MSD superconductors , with a bit of die electric grease , Ron
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 09:05 AM
  #9  
bumble-z's Avatar
bumble-z
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,393
Likes: 17
From: Belleville Mich.
Default

Originally Posted by vettenuts
Yep, the stockers were real buggers to get off. I went with the C6 Z06 wires from GM. They are red and have a 90 end which works great with headers. If you are only doing plugs, I would go with NGK TR5's.
Good advise here.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 10:21 AM
  #10  
bob22z06's Avatar
bob22z06
Thread Starter
Pro
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 548
Likes: 8
From: Lexington KY
Default

Thanks for all the replying guys .....this forum is awsome .....now I guess be buying me some plugs and wires ....
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 11:16 AM
  #11  
baxsom's Avatar
baxsom
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 235
From: Rockledge FL
Default

with the GMPP red wires. i was able to use the oem heat shields and even with headers there was not one that came close to touching.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 11:51 AM
  #12  
Baldfart's Avatar
Baldfart
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 2
From: Yes it's hot! Arizona
Default

GMPP wires and dielectric grease. A little bit of the grease in the plug boot will make the job much easier next time.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 01:06 PM
  #13  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by Baldfart
GMPP wires and dielectric grease. A little bit of the grease in the plug boot will make the job much easier next time.
Good advice!
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 01:24 PM
  #14  
99blancoss's Avatar
099blancoss
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 2
From: Portland OR
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
Default

We offer MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires. One of the very best wires on the market you will find at $58 shipped and a very popular wire used in these cars. It's common to break a GM wire when taking it off, it happens all the time. We guarantee our MSD wires for life vs that happening. The MSD wire offers more features and better heat protection for the money as well as lower resistance. 40 phms per foot vs 300-600 with GM wires.
Flat out the MSD is a better wire simply due to construction and heat resistance.

Dielectric grease is an insulator unless stated on it that its conductive. Don't get to much on the terminals. I use a little on the ceramic to aid in installation.

You shouldmt be pulling wires that much anyway but if you do the MSD double crimp system is the reason it stays together better than any other wire on the market. It's made to be manipulated and wont fail where the others do. The others can break internally , and if you don't pull it apart and see you have a bad wire it could cause issues for you and drive you nuts until you figure out where the misfire is coming from.

The factory plug is a good one, I try to keep them unless you need to drop a heat range for power increase.

Last edited by 99blancoss; Apr 13, 2012 at 01:33 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 01:44 PM
  #15  
whitesmokels1's Avatar
whitesmokels1
Pro
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 691
Likes: 19
From: Los Angeles
Default

Usually white means lean, black means rich. A properly running engine should produce a plug with a light tan tint on the insulator around the electrode. Google "spark plug chart" and there will be plenty of images to compare your plugs to.

What mods do you have? is it tuned for the mods? please fill out your profile so we may be able to help you better.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:01 PM
  #16  
baxsom's Avatar
baxsom
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 235
From: Rockledge FL
Default

the biggest problem i had with the MSD wires is that they terminal was farther down into the boot than with the GMPP reds. the GMPP wires gave two very audible positive clicks going onto the spark plug and again on the coil. when i tried the MSD it was not so positive.
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:03 PM
  #17  
0331MARINE's Avatar
0331MARINE
Safety Car
Supporting Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,903
Likes: 1
From: You know your drunk when you swerve to miss the tree then you realize its your air freshener! Covington Ga
Default

I've had MSD's on mine for a couple of years with no problems. Either one will work, just depends on what name you want on it.....
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To spark plug wire help!!

Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:10 PM
  #18  
99blancoss's Avatar
099blancoss
Former Vendor
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,470
Likes: 2
From: Portland OR
St. Jude Donor '10-'11-'12
Default

Originally Posted by baxsom
the biggest problem i had with the MSD wires is that they terminal was farther down into the boot than with the GMPP reds. the GMPP wires gave two very audible positive clicks going onto the spark plug and again on the coil. when i tried the MSD it was not so positive.
They click into place same as the others do, they have a posi lock system. We make our wires with the customer in mind. We push the term further into the boot so you don't have that issue as well as making them about 1/4-1/2 inch longer than MSD does to assist with the hard to reach plugs.

I have over 12,000 wires out there and I wont say in 5 years we have been perfect, we had a bad batch last year for the first time ever of about 4 sets of wires but we do stand behind our product with our guaranty 100%
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:44 PM
  #19  
Txsailor's Avatar
Txsailor
Racer
10 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 329
Likes: 1
From: Bowie Texas
Default

My car has red wires that say gm on them, are these the famed gmpp red wires or are the original wires red too?
Reply
Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:46 PM
  #20  
Baldfart's Avatar
Baldfart
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 2
From: Yes it's hot! Arizona
Default

Originally Posted by Txsailor
My car has red wires that say gm on them, are these the famed gmpp red wires or are the original wires red too?
My original wires were gray.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:31 PM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE