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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 12:15 PM
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I'm thinking that the 10 year old Z06 Ti exhaust on my '01 is gradually getting louder with age.The idle tone seems to be somewhat deeper, and WOT will just about wake up the dead!

My engine is completely stock, with both pairs of factory cats in place, and it has no exhaust leaks anywhere in the system.

Does anyone know if the Ti mufflers have any type of glass matting inside the shells? The only reason I could think of, for the change in tone, is the matting is gradually blowing out.

Has anyone else noticed that their Ti's are becoming louder?
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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I have thought the same recently, but mine is a H/C car and I had chocked it up to not driving it enough these days. I seem to recall reading about a dissection of the mufflers from a magazine circa 2001 and there was some glass in there as I recall. I would need to find the article as I squirlled it away for future reference.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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I just so happen to have a pic of a CUT OPEN Ti and YES,, there is a steel wool type of packing on the main output tube.


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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Same with mine but I don't think it's too loud yet. I think it sounds better. In the process of putting headers on so this will be interesting.
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I wonder if running long tubes & larger diameter X pipe & no cats could help promote these Z,Ti systems to their Decimal deaths??
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
I just so happen to have a pic of a CUT OPEN Ti and YES,, there is a steel wool type of packing on the main output tube.

Ahhhhh, That explains it! Thanks Bill.

Actually, I'm liking the sound better. Gonna have to work on blowing the rest of that steel packing out.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 04:27 PM
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I actually find that my Magnaflows have become progressively louder over the last couple of months. Doesn't bother me because it is now just perfect. I think it is normal with most systems that contain some form of stuffing such as steel wool or fiberglass.
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Old Jul 12, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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Thanks to all who responded.

I guess we can conclude that Ti mufflers are just like many of us old farts here on the Forum.

They both keep on getting better as they age!
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Thanks to all who responded.

I guess we can conclude that Ti mufflers are just like many of us old farts here on the Forum.

They both keep on getting better as they age!
And louder
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And louder
Very true!
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I think LT's, none cat x pipe, and TI's sound awesome! What do you guys think?
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Originally Posted by tkdenton
I think LT's, none cat x pipe, and TI's sound awesome! What do you guys think?
I'll soon find out what LT, catted x pip and aged TI will sound like. I expect it to be awesome while not being overly loud.
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Yes I would suppose that as an exhaust system gets older that it would get louder. It would stand to reason.
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Originally Posted by YELLO C5
I'll soon find out what LT, catted x pip and aged TI will sound like. I expect it to be awesome while not being overly loud.
I'll be curious to know what you think. Be sure to give us your impression.
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Will do. Have a TR 224/224 114 cam and adding heads and headers through a Z06 Ti exhaust. Should have it together next week.
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Originally Posted by YELLO C5
I'll soon find out what LT, catted x pip and aged TI will sound like. I expect it to be awesome while not being overly loud.


Lt, no cats & 3" x pipe with Ti system.
It won't be loud at all.

I ended up going with the BB Quad Tip, 4" Bullets.
What did you say? I can't hear ya!!
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Old Jul 14, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by YELLO C5
Will do. Have a TR 224/224 114 cam and adding heads and headers through a Z06 Ti exhaust. Should have it together next week.
Now I really want to hear what your setup sounds like! I'll be putting a cam in mine in the next couple of months. Looks like you'll be giving me a preview of what mine will sound like.
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Wonder if the glass breaks up and is blown out or if it can become matted and choke off some of the flow.
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Originally Posted by vettenuts
Wonder if the glass breaks up and is blown out or if it can become matted and choke off some of the flow.
Looking at Bill's cut away pics, the glass or steel matting is wrapped around both outlet tubes. Although you can't tell for sure, the outlet tubes are probably perforated, just like the inlet tube.

The old glass pack style muffles of the '60's had a single perforated tube, that was completely wrapped in glass wool matting from the inlet to the outlet. They would also become louder as they got older, and most likely from the gradual loss of the glass wool matting.

To answer your question, the glass or steel packing material is more likely to break up and get blown out of the perforated outlet tubes, rather than become matted and choke off some of the flow.

If the later were the case, they would probably become quieter, rather than louder as they age.
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Originally Posted by YELLO C5
I'll soon find out what LT, catted x pip and aged TI will sound like. I expect it to be awesome while not being overly loud.
You`ll like it!
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