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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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I just bought a 2003 C5 this past weekend. It is in great condition with 28K miles. As I tried the AC during my test run, it did not work. I just chaulked it up to recharging the unit.

The following day a buddy of mine came over and we added some refrigerant as it was relatively low. No luck with cold air.

Here is what happen: With the car started, I press the ac button and hear the click of a relay - not too sure if the compressor is on as I didn't feel there was any added load to the engine.

Any suggestions?

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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 08:14 AM
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Is this a dual control? If so, make sure the outside temp is reading correctly on the display after you drive it. If it is not, it can cause the AC to not work properly. Check your DIC for any HVAC codes. When you push the AC button, does it stay on or go off? And if it does go off, and no HVAC codes, I would suggest that you take it in and have the system checked with the proper equipment, probably a low charge, but you need the proper equipment to check it.
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Read and post your DTCs! Is the compressor engaged and spinning? You really need to look. If the system is really low, when you will most likely see the AC ON button "FLASH" then go off.

You should really measure the HIGH and LOW system pressures to make sure that the system is operating as designed. You may THINK that you charged it enough BUT,, it still may be low or it could also have too much charge.

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READING YOUR Engine Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC)

This procedure should be carried out any time you experience a problem with your C5. Most inexpensive store bought aftermarket code readers will ONLY read power train DTC’s. Reading the DTC’s with the C5 built in code reader will allow you to read ALL the modules in the vehicle.

The Diagnostic Display Mode is entered with the following procedure:
1) Turn on the ignition but don't start the engine.
2) Press the RESET button to turn off any warning messages. (i.e. door open, trunk open ect)
3) Press and hold the OPTIONS button
4) While holding OPTIONS, press FUEL button four times within a 10 -second period.

Initially, the on-board diagnostics go into an Automatic Mode which will cycle through each module and shows diagnostic codes in a pre-set sequence: PCM - TCS - RTD - BCM - IPC - RADIO - HVAC - LDCM - RDCM - SCM - RFA. All codes will be displayed for each module. ( i.e. PCM = 4 codes) If none are present in a given module, you will see No More Codes on the display.

There are two types of diagnostic codes, Current and History designated with a letter suffix, “C” or “H”. A current code indicates a malfunction is present in the module displaying data. A history code indicates a problem existed sometime in the last 40 or 50 ignition cycles. When not accompanied by a current code of the same number, it's potential evidence of a previous problem, now resolved, that was not removed by clearing the codes. More likely it's an indication of an intermittent malfunction.

Intermittent codes are the most challenging of the diagnostics. An intermittent code may have happened once, may have happened more than once but is inconsistent or may be happening on a regular basis but not at the time the codes are displayed. History codes can also be caused by a current malfunction in a system that is not operating at the time codes are displayed. An example is the rear window defogger which doesn't operate until the Body Control Module detects engine rpm. For history codes set by a module that does not operate with the key on and engine off, a special diagnostic tool called a Scan Tester is necessary to properly diagnose the malfunction.

Once the system has displayed all modules, it goes into the manual mode which allows selection of each module using combinations of Driver Information Center buttons. Manual mode can also be entered during the automatic sequence by pressing any button except E/M. Once the display shows Manual Diagnostics, select a module by pressing the OPTIONS button to go forward or the TRIP button to go back. Once a module is selected, a code is displayed, and if more than one are present; press GAGES to go forward or FUEL to go back.
To exit the diagnostic mode at any time, press E/M. If you want to erase codes in a given module, press RESET To reset the codes once in manual mode, press and hold RESET until it displays NO CODES Press OPTIONS to go to the next module. Repeat the steps until you have reset the codes in all the computer modules.
NOTE!! Only reset the codes IF you want to - it is NOT necessary to do this. Clearing a code does not repair a problem. You are simply erasing the evidence of it in the module's memory. If you clear the code/s, and extinguish the Check Engine Light, your emissions status ready will NOT allow you to pass an emissions test until you have completed the required driving cycles. There are a few body module DTC’s that if set will prevent the module from operating properly. Once the DTC is cleared, the module will return to full function. This is not true for power train DTCs.

If you have never read and cleared your codes, there will probably be a lot of old history DTCs. It is recommended that you clear your codes and see if any come back during a driving cycle. Those are the ones that you need to concentrate on diagnosing.

Once you have the codes, the next question is: What to do with the information?
First, consult the factory service manual. Any serious C5 Do-It-Yourself owner should invest in the Corvette Service Manual of the appropriate model year. The Service Manual is really a requirement if you want to understand and work on your C5.

You can read the DTCs while the engine is running. If you turn the engine OFF and then back ON, that can clear some DTCs that may be important with identifying a problem. One example is a Misfire DTC (p-0300) If the engine is shut down, the DTC will clear.

These are some very good C5 Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) explanation web sites!!! They also explain how to read the DTCs

Here is a very good PDF on DTCs and what they relate to:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...odes-dtcs.html


Here are some very good sites that explain what DTC mean:

http://www.gearchatter.com/index10.php

http://www.obd-codes.com/


*** Make sure to include the H or C suffix when you post your DTCs!! They are important!!!

Updated 13 September 2012 :-D
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Yes, I am taking it in to the dealership -- the outside temp is working. My guess is that there is a problem within the system itself.

Thanks for your note.

Glenn
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Old Sep 19, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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Wow, what a great write up. I just checked the system and it not throwing any codes whatsoever. Time for the dealership.

Thank you for the detailed note.

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