2000 and down ABS Module/Pump???
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2000 and down ABS Module/Pump???
Is there still no fix for the 2000 and down ABS Module or Pumps? I'm told they don't service the part any more from Chevrolet. I know the 2001-2004's are different and available and can be repaired.
Thanks in advance
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There has been crap posted before about everything being so different that it would be impossible without completely re-wiring the car and replacing all the other modules and stuff such as that. It's simply not true.
You can swap in the newer ABS module if you're willing to do the work.
The early rear-mounted units would be the most work because there isn't a bracket available to mount the newer style units so you'd have to figure out how to mount the newer unit to the crossmember.
The non-AH cars would need a little extra work because the yaw and accelerometer sensors are not in those cars. At worse, these cars might need a newer BCM as well to get the mode switching to work or they might not have the competitive driving mode selection when you press the TC button.
The cars with front mounted modules and AH would be the easiest to do by far. Just change out the module, re-route the brake lines and re-pin to the new connector.
Mine still works so I'm not doing it and I haven't seen anyone else post about being interested in doing it.
You can swap in the newer ABS module if you're willing to do the work.
The early rear-mounted units would be the most work because there isn't a bracket available to mount the newer style units so you'd have to figure out how to mount the newer unit to the crossmember.
The non-AH cars would need a little extra work because the yaw and accelerometer sensors are not in those cars. At worse, these cars might need a newer BCM as well to get the mode switching to work or they might not have the competitive driving mode selection when you press the TC button.
The cars with front mounted modules and AH would be the easiest to do by far. Just change out the module, re-route the brake lines and re-pin to the new connector.
Mine still works so I'm not doing it and I haven't seen anyone else post about being interested in doing it.
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There has been crap posted before about everything being so different that it would be impossible without completely re-wiring the car and replacing all the other modules and stuff such as that. It's simply not true.
You can swap in the newer ABS module if you're willing to do the work.
The early rear-mounted units would be the most work because there isn't a bracket available to mount the newer style units so you'd have to figure out how to mount the newer unit to the crossmember.
The non-AH cars would need a little extra work because the yaw and accelerometer sensors are not in those cars. At worse, these cars might need a newer BCM as well to get the mode switching to work or they might not have the competitive driving mode selection when you press the TC button.
The cars with front mounted modules and AH would be the easiest to do by far. Just change out the module, re-route the brake lines and re-pin to the new connector.
Mine still works so I'm not doing it and I haven't seen anyone else post about being interested in doing it.
You can swap in the newer ABS module if you're willing to do the work.
The early rear-mounted units would be the most work because there isn't a bracket available to mount the newer style units so you'd have to figure out how to mount the newer unit to the crossmember.
The non-AH cars would need a little extra work because the yaw and accelerometer sensors are not in those cars. At worse, these cars might need a newer BCM as well to get the mode switching to work or they might not have the competitive driving mode selection when you press the TC button.
The cars with front mounted modules and AH would be the easiest to do by far. Just change out the module, re-route the brake lines and re-pin to the new connector.
Mine still works so I'm not doing it and I haven't seen anyone else post about being interested in doing it.
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Sensors are the same except SWPS where newer SWPS is just missing the analog signal part.
Module communicates with the BCM and the BCM's can be swapped between different year cars so the module will communicate.
Module sends a PWM signal to the PCM to cut engine power and this signal is the same between all of these cars.
Both early and late cars have the same master cylinder and 4-wheel disk brakes.
And that's it. All parts that connect to the TCS module are compatible so there is no reason they can't be swapped.
Drifting
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Hmm,
Sensors are the same except SWPS where newer SWPS is just missing the analog signal part.
Module communicates with the BCM and the BCM's can be swapped between different year cars so the module will communicate.
Module sends a PWM signal to the PCM to cut engine power and this signal is the same between all of these cars.
Both early and late cars have the same master cylinder and 4-wheel disk brakes.
And that's it. All parts that connect to the TCS module are compatible so there is no reason they can't be swapped.
Sensors are the same except SWPS where newer SWPS is just missing the analog signal part.
Module communicates with the BCM and the BCM's can be swapped between different year cars so the module will communicate.
Module sends a PWM signal to the PCM to cut engine power and this signal is the same between all of these cars.
Both early and late cars have the same master cylinder and 4-wheel disk brakes.
And that's it. All parts that connect to the TCS module are compatible so there is no reason they can't be swapped.
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No, that's just showing how clueless you are about this making statements like that. All the wires needed for the newer ABS setup are in the older car wiring harness and they are the same gauge and color. The only cars with wires missing are the yaw and accelerometer wires in the cars without AH but the SWPS has extra wires that would not be used for the SWPS anymore so they could easily be wired to those sensors. Obviously you have never even looked at the schematics for these cars.
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No, that's just showing how clueless you are about this making statements like that. All the wires needed for the newer ABS setup are in the older car wiring harness and they are the same gauge and color. The only cars with wires missing are the yaw and accelerometer wires in the cars without AH but the SWPS has extra wires that would not be used for the SWPS anymore so they could easily be wired to those sensors. Obviously you have never even looked at the schematics for these cars.
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Still comes back to the same thing. If it is so easy why hasn't anybody done this swap? Are you the first and only person the look at this. With all ebcm problems with the earlier models and lack of replacement parts I would think people would be all over this. I hope you are right as I have a 99 and may one day need to replace this part.
I actually took another look at the BCM options and the 99-up BCM can be programmed for AH so that BCM can be used even with a non-AH 99-00 car. The earlier cars would need a BCM swap.
Interesting since no-one else can be bothered with a simple relay fix. About the equivalent of what ABS Fixer does on the newer modules and doesn't fix any other failures.
His ramblings are odd. I have no idea why he couldn't get the 98-00 AH module to work in the 00 non-AH car. Likely missed a connection.