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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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Next weekend I am planning on changing my balancer due to wobble. I have already purchaed a stock powerbond replacement. My question is should i replace the timing chain? Trying to keep this to as limited budget as possible. If I do replace the chain do I remove the cam sproket, oil pump, and then bolt it back up? If I leave the chain as is , should i still install a new crank seal? Dont want to have to do this twice. the car is a 2000 m6 with 111000 miles.Any advice?
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I guess it all depends on how much work you want to do, your inventory of tools, mechanical ability, etc.

At minimum, you need to replace the crank seal, and if you remove the timing cover (which means the water pump also), you'll have to carefully reset the timing cover in place, otherwise you'll wear the seal, and have an oil leak. Also, in order to get at the chain, you'll have to remove the oil pump, which means you'll have to disconnect the pickup tube, which will require a new o-ring seal.

Yes, replacing the timing chain would be a good idea. From what I hear, the LS2 is a good, inexpensive choice.
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Originally Posted by phil068
Next weekend I am planning on changing my balancer due to wobble. I have already purchaed a stock powerbond replacement. My question is should i replace the timing chain? Trying to keep this to as limited budget as possible. If I do replace the chain do I remove the cam sproket, oil pump, and then bolt it back up? If I leave the chain as is , should i still install a new crank seal? Dont want to have to do this twice. the car is a 2000 m6 with 111000 miles.Any advice?
You'll need the flywheel locking tool otherwise you will not be able to get the balancer bolt to the correct torque spec, and yes replace the crank seal.
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If you're going to pull the timing cover and replace the Chain, right now is the perfect time to cam it.
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Originally Posted by Sideswipe505
If you're going to pull the timing cover and replace the Chain, right now is the perfect time to cam it.
That had crossed my mind but with 111000 miles I am assuming the lifters would need replacing as well and dont want to have to take the heads off.
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Originally Posted by phil068
That had crossed my mind but with 111000 miles I am assuming the lifters would need replacing as well and I dont want to have to take the heads off.
...can't blame you there!
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YES!!!!

LS1/2/3/7/9 chain, ALL THE SAME.

about $50

as above have stated new front cover and crank seal

OTC puller, Kent Moore FW holder, KM front cover alignment tool, Hawk pulley install tool

Do it right the first time

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GMPP oil pump also

$80 and it comes with the blue Oring
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Damn that's a lot of tools. If I have to have all of those I might as well open my own shop!
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If you do the chain, why not do the sprockets as well? Whole package from Texas Speed is about $125. Probably cheaper if you use stock GM.
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Damn that's a lot of tools. If I have to have all of those I might as well open my own shop!
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Maybe 250 or so in tools

Pin the crank also
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This will save you a few bucks:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/390564294117...84.m1439.l2649
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Originally Posted by SteveDotenMotorsports
Maybe 250 or so in tools

Pin the crank also




As a bonus, if you decide to pin the crank, and use ATI's "longer" drilling fixture, you can use it to both line up the pin with the crank's oil pump drive keyway, as well as use it to align the timing cover.
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Decided to do sprockets and chain. Since motor is stock i went with the cloyes c3220, This is the ls2 replacement and should be as good or better than gm. A heck of a lot cheaper. Chain and sprockets for $35
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and so on! and so on! Do you know some one that works on Ls1 motors!
Specical tools needed! and can cost alot,
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Have the hawk installer coming and should be able to make do with the tools I have for the rest of it. I have done a ton of research and reading and am pretty comfortable with what neds to be done as i have a lot of mechanical experience. I think the hardest part is going to be getting the rack out
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