Ok guys, I have an 01 M6 vert, Heads cam exhaust all the bolt ons. Just bought the car and dealer is going to put a new clutch in it for me. Im undecided on the LS7 or Monster? I want something quiet but strong. Not gonna race it that much but maybe a few times a year. Not looking to buy a $2k clutch either. Trying to stay around 5-800 range. Which is better?

 

Mantic Single disc clutch

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Between the ones you posted, the monster. I have put in a few for some friends and they absolutely beat them to death with no problems at all.

 

I have read great things about monster clutches. I have also read great things about the McleodRST (under your 800 budget) and is a twin disc so it has stock feel. Are you doing a MC or anything else? Tick sells package deals together that would save you some $$
Twin disc:
http://www.tickperformance.com/mcleo...-capacity-800/

Package:
http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...-corvette-z06/

 

Monster Stage 2 for sure. I've had mine in for 10,000+ miles and it's awesome, and I beat on it quite often too since I live around a bunch of curves. I've talked many people into this setup as well that love it as well. I drive my car everyday and the clutch is slipable, makes absolutely no noise, and carries an awesome warranty. Go to ls1Tech and read around at how many people screw up their Monster clutches by installing it wrong, and Monster always replaces their parts for them free of charge. I also have the 18lbs flywheel too for quicker revs. The ls7 clutch still has the self adjusting pressure plate which is the culprit for eventual high-rpm lockout/pedal stuck to the floor. I have a Tick Master in my car so my pedal is stiffer than stock, but the Monster does work with stock MC's just fine while keeping to stiffness down compared to the Tick Master. With your set-up a Stage 2 is perfect.

 

not really a true apples to apples comparison. the monster stage 1 is a competitor to the ls7 unit

stage 2 is a more aggressive disc and will handle more power

kevlar is a little more grabby than organic but based on past kevlar clutches i have had they still slip and don't chatter

they aren't nearly as bad for DD use as a ceramic puc clutch

 

My clutch grabs gears hard when driving spiritedly, and drives really nice and easy going through town, I've been happy with the kevlar. Monster does advertise the Stage 1 to be the LS7 competitor, but for $50 more, you can handle 100hp more, and from what I've read from a few accounts there's no difference in pedal feel between the 2 either. Either way I'd go Monster before another stock clutch in your price range. The ls7 clutch is a lot heavier too.

 

I'm sure you're probably aware, but for those that aren't our clutches are $125 off right now with free shipping. That means you can upgrade to a lightweight flywheel and premium kit for free essentially with the savings. As mentioned our Level 1 is superior to the LS7 and the two will give you room to grow down the road. Don't hesitate to PM me if you want a quote emailed.

 

monster stage 2 with the 18lb flywheel here. Mine was dynoed at 450rwhp and it has never slipped once no matter how hard i beat on it.

 

Not trying to thread jack but this is pertinent info related to the original topic.

Just curious to the guys that do have the Monster clutches... How is pedal effort? Will it destroy your calf during heavy traffic? Stock clutch you barely even notice being there most of the time. I know I wouldn't want to sacrifice any practicality for track times in my situation. Thanks.

Cory

 

The pedal effort is 8% stiffer on our clutches, so it won't leave you walking in circles I can't speak for everyone, but most guys say they like the better feedback it provides.

 

I'm in the clutch market and b/c I have a tick master I was trying to find a clutch that wouldn't make clutch engagement any harder. The McCloed RST looked like a good choice for me.

 

How long is this going on for? that is a great deal. what does the premium kit come with?

 

I have a Tick Master cylinder on my FRC along with my Monster Stage 2 and my pedal definitely stiffened up no doubt, but I daily drive my car everyday without issues or difficulty, and I have to get going off of some pretty big hills where I live. You can use the factory master and the pedal pressure won't increase much at all.

While it does increase peddle pressure with the Stage 2 Monster, McCleod actually advises you don't use an adjustable master cylinder with that clutch in case you over center the diaphragm spring with the adjustable master. There have been people do it though, you just have to have your master set PERFECT.

I can't account for how long it's going on, but a premium kit comes with a new slave cylinder, which 100% of people would recommend to do if you're putting a new clutch in.

 

Not to be ignorant here but without knowing much about these cars only being deep into research on them for about 2 months, but what advantage does the Tick Master Cylinder have by being adjustable? I've never had any experiences with adjustable master cylinders with the previous modified platforms I have been in.

Cory

 

May like to consider a clutch bleeder valve too.

 

Bought the Monster Stage 2 premium kit from Monsterclutches.com for $689.99 shipped. Thanks for the posts guys, I think im going to be happy with it.

 

don't forget to get a remote clutch bleeder. it will make bleeding or changing the clutch fluid a breeze.

 

Nothing ignorant about wondering that, a lot of people are curious about them since they are raved about a lot on other forums. The Tick master cylinder flows A LOT more fluid than the stock master cylinder, thus creating a bit stiffer pedal (combined with the spring in your clutch pedal that has to be removed to make the Tick work). It's main purpose is to add/remove travel (it's adjustable unlike the factory one) and they say it eliminates high-RPM lockout that happens to a lot of ls-based cars. It is also rebuildable for around $12 I believe because it is a universal Tilton unit. It has to be adjusted right though or you could risk hurting your clutch. There's a lot more info on them over on ls1Tech, the guys on here usually stay with the factory master to keep the stock clutch feel. The Tick's not bad by any means though, a lot of guys daily drive on a Tick master and you forget it's even there, they say it stiffens up the clutch 15%.


My kit came with a bleeder and it's the best thing ever. Since the slave is 10x harder to get to on Vette's vs. F-Bodys or any other car I bleed mine at least 2-3 a month. My fluid always stays clear.

You'll love it man! Glad we could all help you out! Report back when you get it installed.