Best heads / cam?
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Racer
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From: New Hope Pennsylvania
Best heads / cam?
Yes, I know that there are plenty of threads on heads / cam. But I am starting me own 
. So I am currently in the market for heads and cam. I emailed ECS, WCC, and Texas Speed. But which is the best? From looking around I've seen nothing but bad reviews about WCC, their package seems pretty cheap. I am looking for roughly 450whp. I have a 99' FRC with LT headers and Borla exhaust, black wing intake, and a stage 2 monster clutch getting installed this week 
. So can anybody give some feedback on what would be a good place to purchase from? NO I DON'T WANT A BLOWER, I have my brothers car for that 
. Any feedback will be great! Thanks
- Anthony
. So I am currently in the market for heads and cam. I emailed ECS, WCC, and Texas Speed. But which is the best? From looking around I've seen nothing but bad reviews about WCC, their package seems pretty cheap. I am looking for roughly 450whp. I have a 99' FRC with LT headers and Borla exhaust, black wing intake, and a stage 2 monster clutch getting installed this week . So can anybody give some feedback on what would be a good place to purchase from? NO I DON'T WANT A BLOWER, I have my brothers car for that . Any feedback will be great! Thanks- Anthony
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Anthony,
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
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Racer
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From: New Hope Pennsylvania
Anthony,
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
I feel as if texas speed gave me a good recommendation
PRC 227cc CNC ported heads, milled to 60cc for 11.1:1 compression
224/228 cam on a 114 LSA and 7.450 chromoly pushrods
Cloyes single roller timing chain set
ls7 lifters
oil pump
Any opinions on that? Its not to aggressive either I don't think.
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Thanks!
I feel as if texas speed gave me a good recommendation
PRC 227cc CNC ported heads, milled to 60cc for 11.1:1 compression
224/228 cam on a 114 LSA and 7.450 chromoly pushrods
Cloyes single roller timing chain set
ls7 lifters
oil pump
Any opinions on that? Its not to aggressive either I don't think.
I feel as if texas speed gave me a good recommendation
PRC 227cc CNC ported heads, milled to 60cc for 11.1:1 compression
224/228 cam on a 114 LSA and 7.450 chromoly pushrods
Cloyes single roller timing chain set
ls7 lifters
oil pump
Any opinions on that? Its not to aggressive either I don't think.
Drifting
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,585
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From: Cedaredge Colorado
Thanks!
I feel as if texas speed gave me a good recommendation
PRC 227cc CNC ported heads, milled to 60cc for 11.1:1 compression
224/228 cam on a 114 LSA and 7.450 chromoly pushrods
Cloyes single roller timing chain set
ls7 lifters
oil pump
Any opinions on that? Its not to aggressive either I don't think.
I feel as if texas speed gave me a good recommendation
PRC 227cc CNC ported heads, milled to 60cc for 11.1:1 compression
224/228 cam on a 114 LSA and 7.450 chromoly pushrods
Cloyes single roller timing chain set
ls7 lifters
oil pump
Any opinions on that? Its not to aggressive either I don't think.
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Anthony,
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
This is good advice
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If you want the best heads, I believe aftermarket castings are better than 243 based heads; especially PRC. The budget will need to stretch a bit, but you get better quality on the build, and components. I worked with TEA, and they made me a custom set of Trickflow 215s that achieved 483/432 SAE corrected. I did have a ported FAST90, and a EWP, along with a UD pulley, so just about every bolt-on. I used a very mild 228-232@ 112 cam, with .600/.600 lift. The lobes were such, that with 61cc chambers, it made 10.9:1 SCR, and more importantly 8.55 DCR. Torque everywhere, and a nice sounding lope @ 825 rpms. AFR also makes excellent heads, but I've never tried them.
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Drifting
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From: Morrisville PA
Agree with the AI sentiment.
If you are a 346, stock cube car and your goal is 450-480 rwhp, then there is really no reason to not just use factory ported castings.
I don't see the need for the aftermarket stuff unless you have a build that requires them.
You can do your entire build (h/c/i) for the price of the aftermarket heads if you already possess the heads you want to have ported.
If you are a 346, stock cube car and your goal is 450-480 rwhp, then there is really no reason to not just use factory ported castings.
I don't see the need for the aftermarket stuff unless you have a build that requires them.
You can do your entire build (h/c/i) for the price of the aftermarket heads if you already possess the heads you want to have ported.
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I spent less than that for TFS heads, Crane cam, TF PRs, GMracing lifters, HS roller rockers, LS2 chain, pump, etc. Read up on LS1howto.com, and did the install in my garage. Lots of fun, BTW.
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Anthony,
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
There really is no confirmed "best" heads/cam out there. Believe it or not, a well thought out combination of mild parts will outperform a mismatch of expensive parts any day of the week. If the package isn't matched well together the car won't run as good as it could have.
We personally use Advanced Induction for all our cylinder head work. I've installed heads that have came out of almost every popular CNC machine in the country and dollar vs. dollar I think the A.I. stuff works best. Their pricing is very competitive and the 241HCR program or the 243 programs they offer are tough to beat. We average 450-470rwhp on stock 346ci engines with their cylinder head programs and Spartan camshafts.
The camshaft will depend on what you want. Criteria such as idle speed, power delivery, power output, weight / gearing of the car, etc. all play a factor. If you want 450+rwhp you'll need something in the high 220's or low 230's with some good compression.
Whatever you do, don't buy into the giant cam hype. You'll hate your car. We remove 15-20 camshafts per year thanks to internet marketing making people think a 240+ duration camshaft will "work great" in their 5.7/6.0L engines.
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Define best lol
Your goal should be doable without getting a radical cam depending on the dyno, if you opted for the lighter flywheel and what size primaries your headers are as these things all make a difference if chasing a number. I'd recommend porting your throttle body and buying some ported 243 heads, then cam choice should be decided on last with all those details already made.
PS thanks again for choosing a Monster!
Your goal should be doable without getting a radical cam depending on the dyno, if you opted for the lighter flywheel and what size primaries your headers are as these things all make a difference if chasing a number. I'd recommend porting your throttle body and buying some ported 243 heads, then cam choice should be decided on last with all those details already made.
PS thanks again for choosing a Monster!
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i would use that texas speed package if i modded mine. that duration drives nice on the street. it will zip to 6500 but still idle and behave virtually like stock in the lower rpm range
tried a 236/242 cam about 10 years ago and i wouldn't want that in a daily driver, under 1500rpm wasn't as smooth as the 224/230, top end was stronger, above 5000 you noticed it but it wasn't worth the trade off.
those 240 cams would behave better at 12:1 compression and e85 with solid lifters i would imagine
tried a 236/242 cam about 10 years ago and i wouldn't want that in a daily driver, under 1500rpm wasn't as smooth as the 224/230, top end was stronger, above 5000 you noticed it but it wasn't worth the trade off.
those 240 cams would behave better at 12:1 compression and e85 with solid lifters i would imagine
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