New Clutch?
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Racer
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From: White Bear Lake Minnesota
New Clutch?
So I was playing around on my lunch break and I let her go sideways then grabbed second for a little fishtail, right after that I smelt a funny burning smell. It wasnt rubber and didnt smell good, my car is a 1999 hatch with 126,000 miles with im assuming the original clutch.
Any ideas what the smell could be and if it is the clutch what new clutch should I go with?
Any ideas what the smell could be and if it is the clutch what new clutch should I go with?
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clutch smoking doesn't mean it's shot. you can smoke an organic multiple times before they go. if it's slipping during normal driving under power that's different
if you replace your clutch it depends on your hp level and how you want it to drive for your choice of friction material
if you replace your clutch it depends on your hp level and how you want it to drive for your choice of friction material
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if it smelled like bringing a civic down from 100mph on stock brakes really fast there's a good reason. it's similar material
it wears material off the clutch yes but it's fairly harmless as long as it's not slipping when you have the pedal out
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Racer
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From: White Bear Lake Minnesota
Thanks guys I think I'm safe for now, I just took her out for an hour cruise and everything is working great and no funny smells lol.
In the future if she does let go what would be the best clutch to go with for say a 400-500hp daily driver?
In the future if she does let go what would be the best clutch to go with for say a 400-500hp daily driver?
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kind of a grey area depending on how you drive, what tires you're on and how you want it to feel
the stock ls7 clutch with a ram flywheel weighs the same as factory. it's under 600 dollars from scoggin dickey. not a bad choice for a 420-440rwhp car
the monster stage 2 can hold a bit more, should engage faster and has the option of a really light flywheel. however, it's kevlar and by nature a slightly more aggressive engagement than oem
or you could use the lt1 clutch which is the best of both worlds
the stock ls7 clutch with a ram flywheel weighs the same as factory. it's under 600 dollars from scoggin dickey. not a bad choice for a 420-440rwhp car
the monster stage 2 can hold a bit more, should engage faster and has the option of a really light flywheel. however, it's kevlar and by nature a slightly more aggressive engagement than oem
or you could use the lt1 clutch which is the best of both worlds
Drifting
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St. Jude Donor '14
it has higher pedal effort but works great.
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The Level 2 is a carbon impregnated organic friction. You may be thinking of an old clutch they had with dual friction materials, different on each side of the disk.
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I ran +500 Fwhp on the OE clutch for quite some time but I'm not a super aggressive street driver driver and I don't take the car to the track. But I did drive the car very "spirited" when it was out and many hard 1-2 shifts at over 6K rpm and the clutch held for a number of years even running a Nitto DR. So it is doable under the right conditions and if you know the limitations of your setup. Anything over ~500 fwhp and you will probably at least want to consider a better clutch to handle that power level. I'm running an RPS twin lite clutch now.
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there's nothing organic about this
the level one is an organic disc with some carbon in the mix
i'm not sure if it's an going joke at monster or what but the picture they have posted online of the level 2 isn't actually the level 2
unless they changed it yet again in the past couple months
Last edited by racebum; May 19, 2014 at 01:56 PM.
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From: oregon
unless you mean going twin disc
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no, actually, i just sold a level 2 a couple months ago. it's full faced kevlar, this is the new design that started in 2013
there's nothing organic about this
the level one is an organic disc with some carbon in the mix
i'm not sure if it's an going joke at monster or what but the picture they have posted online of the level 2 isn't actually the level 2
unless they changed it yet again in the past couple months
there's nothing organic about this
the level one is an organic disc with some carbon in the mix
i'm not sure if it's an going joke at monster or what but the picture they have posted online of the level 2 isn't actually the level 2
unless they changed it yet again in the past couple months
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From: oregon
Just to clarify, our Level 2 being the most popular of the single discs has changed over the years. It started as a dual friction disc way back in the beginning of 2007, the 11" setup hasn't been used in 3 years, the picture you posted is of a type of Kevlar that we have exhausted the supply on and have gone back to the old Kevlar with grooves cut in it as pictured on the website...both of which have similar characteristics.
the pictures on monsterclutches.com of the level 1 and level 2 disc are the identical photo
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From: South Western Ontario
Ya, just as the text says, same disc but using the different pressure plate. I do remember the dual friction disc.
Maybe some day they will actually post the info on what they are actually selling on their web site....
Maybe some day they will actually post the info on what they are actually selling on their web site....