Old"Wrench", New Technology Motor....
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Seminole, FL
Old"Wrench", New Technology Motor....
Hey guys, I'm about to "Come Up To Date" in my technology.
I'm a retired Master Tech, both Chevrolet and Chrysler.
ReBuilt my first engine in a Plymouth Duster (slant six) in 1972.
I've built quite a few V-8s since, mostly small block chevy Camaro, Corvette, Nova, et al. 327, 350 CID types. Even built a small block 400 with the 350 heads once.. Nice Motor, that.
I've rebuilt Motorcycle engines, H.D. and Honda twos and fours.
I'm about to begin my first LS-1 "Adventure".
I'm looking for advice on the best literature sources.
And maybe encouraging words from any of you out there who've already 'been there done that'.
Thanks in advance.
I'm a retired Master Tech, both Chevrolet and Chrysler.
ReBuilt my first engine in a Plymouth Duster (slant six) in 1972.
I've built quite a few V-8s since, mostly small block chevy Camaro, Corvette, Nova, et al. 327, 350 CID types. Even built a small block 400 with the 350 heads once.. Nice Motor, that.
I've rebuilt Motorcycle engines, H.D. and Honda twos and fours.
I'm about to begin my first LS-1 "Adventure".
I'm looking for advice on the best literature sources.
And maybe encouraging words from any of you out there who've already 'been there done that'.
Thanks in advance.
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,687
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From: De Pere, WI
it is going to take a few tools you probably don't have, but overall they are fairly easy.
- Torque angle gauge (if using stock head bolts)
- front cover centering tool
- front/rear cover aligning tools (I made mine from 1/4" flat stock)
- oil pump centering tool (not always necessary for aftermarket pumps)
- metric thread chasers
I suggest making your own pre-luber since you can't prelube it like you could old school sbc's. I am currently sourcing the materials to make several of them since there really isn't anything available.
- Torque angle gauge (if using stock head bolts)
- front cover centering tool
- front/rear cover aligning tools (I made mine from 1/4" flat stock)
- oil pump centering tool (not always necessary for aftermarket pumps)
- metric thread chasers
I suggest making your own pre-luber since you can't prelube it like you could old school sbc's. I am currently sourcing the materials to make several of them since there really isn't anything available.
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From: Anthony TX
CI 6,7,8,9,11 Vet
St. Jude Donor '08
QUOTE " ReBuilt my first engine in a Plymouth Duster (slant six) in 1972."
LOL
Your BEST investment is a set of factory Service Manuals! This engine/power train is WORLDS different than you are use to...
I had to learn ALL OVER AGAIN!
The electronics is a universe away different!
Call me PM sent!
Bill
LOL
Your BEST investment is a set of factory Service Manuals! This engine/power train is WORLDS different than you are use to...
I had to learn ALL OVER AGAIN!
The electronics is a universe away different!Call me PM sent!
Bill
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From: Dear Karma, I have a list of people you missed.
St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
MOTORBOOKS WORKSHOP series
One book I can recommend is "GM LS-Series Engines - The Complete Swap Manual' by Joseph Potak. Also, "How To Build And Modify GM LS-Series Engines". Easy to find on Amazon and not expensive.
These are a very good source of info for anyone looking to learn about the LS family of engines. Although one is aimed primarily at people who are considering swapping an LS engine into various vehicles, both books are very good sources for overall LS info in general. About 200 pages with lots of photographs, most in color and Amazon lets you preview several pages of each book, before you buy.
HTH
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...69411363,d.b2k
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xS6ZPnrqLKUBtA
These are a very good source of info for anyone looking to learn about the LS family of engines. Although one is aimed primarily at people who are considering swapping an LS engine into various vehicles, both books are very good sources for overall LS info in general. About 200 pages with lots of photographs, most in color and Amazon lets you preview several pages of each book, before you buy.
HTH
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...69411363,d.b2k
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xS6ZPnrqLKUBtA
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Seminole, FL
Well, when I bought the 2001 Camry for my daughter, I got an OTC EVO good up to 2008 for diagnostics, as my Snap-on MT-2500 is "Water Damaged" to DEAD, from sitting out in a neglected shed for too many years. ugh.
However, I've used it on the '99 quite a few times. (The dreaded Ground Gremlin when I first bought it... LOL).
I'm pretty "Technology Savvy", so I'm thinking that for 'sensors and the like' in STOCK CONFIGURATION, I'd do pretty well.
But..... (THE BIG ONE)....
As with anyone, I'm thinking that if the pulled engine (my 116k motor) is still in good enough condition at post extraction inspection, I might "BUILD" it.
(I know, I know, BUILD the new one prior to installation)...
But as this is my FIRST LS engine Adventure, "Redundancy" is my favorite word of the day.
Have a running engine READY.... JUST IN CASE... And NO I don't have WADS OF CASH laying about.
I want to DRIVE the thing, not spend a summer with a DOWN CAR.
So, I'm thinking "INSPECTION" of the new motor prior to install, and then GET IT DONE.!
Which would leave me plenty of time to LEARN what options I'm looking for in my possible approaching 400hp rebuild of the original.
Thoughts?
However, I've used it on the '99 quite a few times. (The dreaded Ground Gremlin when I first bought it... LOL).
I'm pretty "Technology Savvy", so I'm thinking that for 'sensors and the like' in STOCK CONFIGURATION, I'd do pretty well.
But..... (THE BIG ONE)....
As with anyone, I'm thinking that if the pulled engine (my 116k motor) is still in good enough condition at post extraction inspection, I might "BUILD" it.
(I know, I know, BUILD the new one prior to installation)...
But as this is my FIRST LS engine Adventure, "Redundancy" is my favorite word of the day.
Have a running engine READY.... JUST IN CASE... And NO I don't have WADS OF CASH laying about.
I want to DRIVE the thing, not spend a summer with a DOWN CAR.
So, I'm thinking "INSPECTION" of the new motor prior to install, and then GET IT DONE.!
Which would leave me plenty of time to LEARN what options I'm looking for in my possible approaching 400hp rebuild of the original.
Thoughts?
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Oct 2013
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From: Seminole, FL
Post Script to above post.
Bill.... YAY,... Got your message... Will call today.... Gawd Bless Ya!!!
LoneStarFRC... I bought SADesign's "How to use and UpGrade to GM Gen III LS-Series Powertrain Control Systems"
Starting with the basic technical overview of the systems that I'm about to JUMP INTO.
Thanks for the advice on the books.
I already have the Factory Service Manuals... 3 Volume Set...
Sometimes those things aren't worth the paper they're printed on..
(no wait, that's the Toyota Camry Manuals that I wasted money on)... LOL
No Joke, Toyota Manuals "Ignition Switch".... go to page . (arrow pointing) "There it is".... That's all it says... WTF?
Bill.... YAY,... Got your message... Will call today.... Gawd Bless Ya!!!
LoneStarFRC... I bought SADesign's "How to use and UpGrade to GM Gen III LS-Series Powertrain Control Systems"
Starting with the basic technical overview of the systems that I'm about to JUMP INTO.
Thanks for the advice on the books.
I already have the Factory Service Manuals... 3 Volume Set...
Sometimes those things aren't worth the paper they're printed on..
(no wait, that's the Toyota Camry Manuals that I wasted money on)... LOL
No Joke, Toyota Manuals "Ignition Switch".... go to page . (arrow pointing) "There it is".... That's all it says... WTF?
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