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Couple days ago my C5 after I got on it, backed off quickly started to run rough, idle rough, backfire but got her home. Now after researching the P0305 code I am in the process of removing the ignition coil, ok, no problem so far, then pulled wire off coil to spark plug, tried to remove wire from spark plug and yes I broke it, ok, will buy another, the problem is I can not get the wire off of the spark plug (very tight for hands to operate) or able to remove the metal can cover protecting the spark plug. I would appreciate any help/advice on how to remove the plug and wire, from cylinder #5? Thank you, a new member.
Old thread but looking for help at the right site. I would try to get pliers and grab and twist wiggle. Is the wire off? Can u get the socket on or the metsi is in the way. If it is try backing out the extension or racket where it goes into socket to give it enough room to let the metal go deeper into the socket
P..s I don't know if your comfortable enough but i've done this. Break the head of the spark plug off. If you can't get it. the other ways
helga203, thank you for the reply, the broken wire is still connected to the plug, the metal can protector is also still on, I can't get pliers in there with enough bite to pull either one off. Do they require any special procedure to remove or just grab hold and pull as hard as I can? Not much room to get a tool in there and pull on them. Any tips on pulling them out. Thanks.
Just pull hard, it will come off. If the metal insulator is on, a needle nose on each side should bring the insulator, rubber boot, and connector all together. If the insulator is off, just grab the rubber boot and pull hard. Worst case, you might crack the porcelain on the plug, which you can replace.
helga203, thank you for the reply, the broken wire is still connected to the plug, the metal can protector is also still on, I can't get pliers in there with enough bite to pull either one off. Do they require any special procedure to remove or just grab hold and pull as hard as I can? Not much room to get a tool in there and pull on them. Any tips on pulling them out. Thanks.
Like these other guys said and get the appropriate size screw driver and snap the porcelain and wire and head will come off then you can use a socket. Don't be afraid nothing is going to happen. U cant crack the block from doing this. Just keep praying on the plug and move the screw driver around.
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Many people including me broke the head of the plug. We get lazy and don't take the plug out when we have to remove a header.
jwg2, thank you. I have special pliers on order and will pull as hard as I can to remove the wire and metal insulator from the plug, good to know if you pull hard enough something has to give, probably my knuckles.
helga203, thanks again, I have ordered some pliers made to do this, I hope, will be here in couple of days, if they don't work, the sledge hammer comes out.
helga203, thanks again, I have ordered some pliers made to do this, I hope, will be here in couple of days, if they don't work, the sledge hammer comes out.
You can borrow mine if u want. Has a lot of miles on it plus a pancaked car when i couldn't get a blot out, but let me tell you how good i felt after my little tamprem Let as know how it goes
helga203 thanks for the offer, not quite at that point yet. I will post final outcome in a few days, thanks to ALL for the tips, advice, help.....really appreciate it!
Couple days ago my C5 after I got on it, backed off quickly started to run rough, idle rough, backfire but got her home. Now after researching the P0305 code I am in the process of removing the ignition coil, ok, no problem so far, then pulled wire off coil to spark plug, tried to remove wire from spark plug and yes I broke it, ok, will buy another, the problem is I can not get the wire off of the spark plug (very tight for hands to operate) or able to remove the metal can cover protecting the spark plug. I would appreciate any help/advice on how to remove the plug and wire, from cylinder #5? Thank you, a new member.
You're on the right track. OP and Bill do a great job here going through the steps of how to isolate a miss. First thing to do is check connections with plug wires, coil packs, and injectors. If those are good (sounds like they were) start moving things one at a time. Order doesn't matter, but swap the plug wire, coil pack, and fuel injector with a known-good cylinder. You can swap the plug too, but if you're far enough along where you're pulling a plug you might as well throw in a fresh one. While the old plug is out look for signs of problems. There are some great pictures available via Google images of different conditions and what they do to a spark pspark
If all that checks good it's time for a compression and leak down test. Also not a bad idea to boroscope the cylinder to look for issues on the piston.
Naoleon, thanks for your input, finally got plug out of #5, it had a crack down the ceramic, I hope this is the cause of my mis fire, code P0305, will know when I get set of plugs and wires tomorrow and install.
Naoleon, thanks for your input, finally got plug out of #5, it had a crack down the ceramic, I hope this is the cause of my mis fire, code P0305, will know when I get set of plugs and wires tomorrow and install.
Hey Guys, thanks to all for the input/help. I finally got the plug wire, metal heat shield and plug removed from cycl #5, using a lot more muscle and pulling hard, it finally gave way. Did not have to use the hammer, so plug was not destroyed just the plug wire was broken. When I removed the plug I examined it and saw it had a deep crack down the ceramic, replaced the original ignition coil, new plug wire and new plug, cranked her up and ran smooth as a kittens purr, road test went well. Now just have to replace the other seven plugs and wires. Should be easier now, I have a handy dandy plug removing tool to make pulling the plug wire off. Thanks again to all who replied. Note: The code I was getting was P0305 not P0300.
Hey Guys, thanks to all for the input/help. I finally got the plug wire, metal heat shield and plug removed from cycl #5, using a lot more muscle and pulling hard, it finally gave way. Did not have to use the hammer, so plug was not destroyed just the plug wire was broken. When I removed the plug I examined it and saw it had a deep crack down the ceramic, replaced the original ignition coil, new plug wire and new plug, cranked her up and ran smooth as a kittens purr, road test went well. Now just have to replace the other seven plugs and wires. Should be easier now, I have a handy dandy plug removing tool to make pulling the plug wire off. Thanks again to all who replied. Note: The code I was getting was P0305 not P0300.
That's the correct code for the problem you had. P0300 is "random misfire" where either the computer detects multiple misses on different cylinders, or can't figure out the cylinder that's misfiring. P030X is the code where X represents the specific cylinder the computer is detecting the miss on. In your case you were missing on cylinder 5 due to your broken plug, hence P0305.
Hey Guys, thanks to all for the input/help. I finally got the plug wire, metal heat shield and plug removed from cycl #5, using a lot more muscle and pulling hard, it finally gave way. Did not have to use the hammer, so plug was not destroyed just the plug wire was broken. When I removed the plug I examined it and saw it had a deep crack down the ceramic, replaced the original ignition coil, new plug wire and new plug, cranked her up and ran smooth as a kittens purr, road test went well. Now just have to replace the other seven plugs and wires. Should be easier now, I have a handy dandy plug removing tool to make pulling the plug wire off. Thanks again to all who replied. Note: The code I was getting was P0305 not P0300.
great news...the misfire is a common problem and usually a lot harder to solve. congratulations!