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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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Hi all,

Can anyone help me figure out how the muffler bolts up to the pipe? It's a ball/socket type setup but I'm wondering how I would fasten it so I don't have any exhaust leaks.

My left side has 3 bolts fastened with a locking washer and a nut on the other side by theres still a gap. It's not going anywhere and its pretty snug but I just don't think the "ball" end is going to slide into the pipe.

Maybe I'm just an idiot, any ideas?!

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Its just supposed to sit in there. Put a nice coat of liquid copper gasket and snug the bolts up. Once everything is lined up to where you like it go ahead and tighten up real good.
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Make sure that the rest of the exhaust system is not out of alignment. Lubricate the ball /socket joint.
Line up the two parts, lightly bolt it together and snug down the three bolts evenly. If theres a gap somewhere in the ball joint seal, lightly tap the female flange with a machinest ball peen hammer all the way around the joint. Then retighten the bolts.

IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You have to tighten the three bolts soooooo much that you BEND the two metal flanges to get it to seal,,,,, something is wrong and parts need to be replaced.

Ive used the tighten and tap method to get the ball flange to seal and have had good success getting it to allow the joint to form and seal.

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Originally Posted by ascastil
Its just supposed to sit in there. Put a nice coat of liquid copper gasket and snug the bolts up. Once everything is lined up to where you like it go ahead and tighten up real good.
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Make sure that the rest of the exhaust system is not out of alignment. Lubricate the ball /socket joint.
Line up the two parts, lightly bolt it together and snug down the three bolts evenly. If theres a gap somewhere in the ball joint seal, lightly tap the female flange with a machinest ball peen hammer all the way around the joint. Then retighten the bolts.

IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You have to tighten the three bolts soooooo much that you BEND the two metal flanges to get it to seal,,,,, something is wrong and parts need to be replaced.

Ive used the tighten and tap method to get the ball flange to seal and have had good success getting it to allow the joint to form and seal.

BC
Thanks for that guys, I guess I never came across this type of setup before. My 911 has weird outward flanges on both the muffler and the tip (the exhaust tip is a separate element on the Carrera). Theres a weird U-shape rounded clamp to connect the two.

I tightened the hell out of the right side before I posted about it, I was going with the tighten and tap method but so far it seems okay. I'll be doing the left side tomorrow and hopefully all goes well with that as well.

I fear at the end you're gonna be right and I'll have to go back and reposition to get them straight, but fingers crossed I wont!
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Originally Posted by ascastil
Its just supposed to sit in there. Put a nice coat of liquid copper gasket and snug the bolts up. Once everything is lined up to where you like it go ahead and tighten up real good.
Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
Make sure that the rest of the exhaust system is not out of alignment. Lubricate the ball /socket joint.
Line up the two parts, lightly bolt it together and snug down the three bolts evenly. If theres a gap somewhere in the ball joint seal, lightly tap the female flange with a machinest ball peen hammer all the way around the joint. Then retighten the bolts.

IF,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, You have to tighten the three bolts soooooo much that you BEND the two metal flanges to get it to seal,,,,, something is wrong and parts need to be replaced.

Ive used the tighten and tap method to get the ball flange to seal and have had good success getting it to allow the joint to form and seal.

BC
So I was able to secure them (unfortunately had to drop the sway bar to get the passenger side pipe in). I used the tighten and tap method and it worked great on the passenger side.

My issue now is that they aren't sitting level. The passenger side is further in and slightly lower than the driver's side. I tried positioning them multiple times before tightening but no beans.

Anyone have a solution to this? Would I have to take it to a muffler shop for welding?

Thanks again
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for LEVEL and angle,,, loosen all the flanges up, use jack stands to get everything level and straight and start tightening everything up once its where you want it.

Unless you have some sort of SLIP JOINT somewhere in the system,,,, I have NO idea how to adjust tip length.

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Originally Posted by Bill Curlee
for LEVEL and angle,,, loosen all the flanges up, use jack stands to get everything level and straight and start tightening everything up once its where you want it.

Unless you have some sort of SLIP JOINT somewhere in the system,,,, I have NO idea how to adjust tip length.

Bill
Thanks!

I figured I'd work backwards and re loosed everything (worst design IMO because it's near impossible to tighten 1 of the 3 holes in the flanges)

Hopefully it works and saves me a trip to the muffler shop.
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