Ok, we all know about this. I watched Pauls videos, they were awesome. Found my battery was not correct. I bought and installed a A C Delco 78PS. Started the car and still got the SSCL message. The wheel was unlocked so I tried to move the car and of course it stalled. I started the car again and the message was gone and it drove fine. Any ideas on what's happening or what my next step should be? The steering wheel was locked prior to battery replacement.

 

Until you get the COLUMN LOCK operating and THEN,,, install the LMC-5 Column Lock By-Pass,,, you could be plagued by this issue for a long time..

This is a LONG TIME,, WELL KNOWN,, HIGHLY DOCUMENTED, LONG STANDING PROBLEM!

Its NOT going to go away until you take the steps to BYPASS the Column Lock issue.

You could have GM replace ALL the column lock components. A day, week,, month, year,,,,,, later, it could happen all over again.

QUESTION??????????????? Does your Column Lock MOTOR operate when you turn the ignition ON and OFF??
You SHOULD be able to hear the column lock motor extend and retract the bolt. each time that you turn the ignition on and off.

BC

 

Not according to Paul.

 

PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE



BC

 

I consider the LMC5 to be the best Column Lock problem permanent fix out there. It also does not require you to “undo” any previous CL attempts to resolve this issue. Their eBay ads have a good video that shows the install at the BCM. It does not cover everything in the written instructions. So, read the instructions and also here is some extra info. In some cases, the BCM timing is off just enough to cause some issues. They make several versions and they can swap out/provide one of these if you have any issues. Their customer support is as good as it gets.

Not uncommon for people to "put the column in a pre-lock condition" and not know it and then start with the install. In other words, they started with the column lock “energized’ even if it was not actually locked yet. If not actually locked yet, it will be as soon as you turn the steering wheel after the LMC5 install. It will then remain in the locked condition until you cause the motor to unlock. It will then remain in the unlocked condition since the motor is then unpowered with the circuits disconnected.

Here is one way to prevent that if your column locks and unlocks normally:

If the CL is functioning normally you don't not need the Unlocker, merely turn the ignition ON, pull fuse #23 in the I/P fuse box, turn ignition OFF, turn the steering wheel (left and right) and verify it is unlocked. Next, disconnect the negative battery terminal, re-insert fuse #23 and continue with the install.

Also the 1999 and later C5's have a column lock relay that can be unplugged or else it will be powered and could fail and drain the battery. The LMC5 written guidance provides this info. This relay is above the BCM.

They also have a great install video in their eBay ads you need to watch.

Compliance Parts website: http://complianceparts.com/index.html


Mr. Sam

 

Way back when,, Corvettes of Houston sold a column Lock Bypass. It was $50 It was the GO TO CLB. Best $50 I ever spent at the time I purchased one for my 98 Coupe after being stranded. I transferred it to my 02 ZO6. Soon after the LMC-5 appeared.

I didn't think the LMC-5 was any different or BETTER than the COH CLB.

Brother let me tell you! The LMC-5 is TOP of the line and customer support for the install and after the install is second to NONE!

Any one who works for GM, or ANY of its supporting dealers, WILL NOT and can not "officially" recommend or install any aftermarket CLB product. All they are "officially" able to do is FIX what GM already designed and installed into YOUR C5! We already stated that the GM CL is PLAGUED with issues that GM refuse to properly address!!

I hope that tells you something..


Ive even been told by SOME GM technical people that installing a CLB will burn up the BCM CL Circuits. I have the ELCHEEPO COH CLB in my 02 ZO6 since purchase and I have had ZERO CLB or BCM issues.. The LMC-5 is a magnitude better in design and functionality. Hope that gives you some comfort in having one installed..

Bill

 

Well said my friend Bill.


Mr. Sam

 

 

Thanks to everyone for your input. I ordered the LMC5 today. I've heard nothing but positive results from people how have installed this. I've also heard there customer service is first rate. I'll let you know the results after the install.

 

Smart move!

 

Lets see, I bought my car and the dealer had just put in a new battery,I then drove home (all highway speeds) 55 miles, shut the car off washed it ,and BOOM column lock !!!!!!! Battery at 14.6 volts ??????

 

Nope went on-line found you guys and have never looked back, if you can't find it here it does not exist !!!!!!!

 

Never heard of him til this thread,and what I just posted is my loyalty, I was introduced to Chadwick's love it won't try anything else(Zaino cars look awesome but I will stay with Chadwick's)I used ECS //Chuck Cow is very good maybe better,but ECS have done well by me. I have never had anything other than a GM vehicle, never a issue why change ????/ I like Dogs, but don't want one !!!!!!

 

Hey Bill...

Thank you for the great info.... Bill and I got to be friends over a column lock C5 that gave me lots of trouble.

While the CLB devices are an absolutely necessity, When I tune your C5 I always include a fix that makes it

ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for you to get stuck due to the C5 fuel cut.

We have a way of disabling the fuel cut so that regardless of the state of the column lock fault, YOU CAN NOT GET STUCK

due to the fuel cut. Very highly recommended for those of you who don't want to be the guy that goes for a ride in his

vette....and never makes it home.

Listen to Bill Curlee and when you're done....Call me up for a good tune.

You'll be happy that you took my advice.
Chuck CoW

 

With new battery-on the second try-shows you had the volts needed for the column lock to operate normal-there are thousands of vettes with NO problems after factory recall-I agree with Paul c4c5 specialist-

 

 

Well it seems to me since I have been on this forum(just two years) it seems like hundreds of this problem still exists,seems like every other day someone posts a column lock issue ????????

 

DADAROO

LMAO! EXCELLENT REPLY!

 

: OK :I just keep driving--must have the only recall that worked! I think GM should give me a free trip to bowling green/and a trip to meet c4c5 specialist--really!

 

I do have LCM5 in my glove box--you know just in case/especially if GM would want the car on display and having to drive to bowling green-