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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:19 PM
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Before I get harpooned by posts saying do a search, this is the situation I am having.

After a long high speed cruise today 150 miles of alot of switching lanes, I notices on way back the turn signal would just stay solid no flashing

I have LED rears with the radio flyer hyper flash module, havent had a problem until now.

Lights work normal, E flasher works normal, now when I got home and let it sit for a bit , and tried the turn signals they worked again, so I am thinking maybe something gets heated up on long hauls, just a guess.

Anyone else experience this issue.

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My C5 had the same issue, think it was a relay, not expensive to fix. Look up on web you will find answer. Mine happened a couple of days after I sold my car, new buyer/friend said was easy to fix.
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Old Mar 18, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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This thread starts about a different problem than yours but turns into discussion about LED lights and the cure for signal issues.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...g-trigger.html
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This is what I found on the web.
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=108063
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I tried the Emergency flasher solution , only works for couple minutes then goes back to the same, got codes BCM 2583,2578 which is for the r/l turn signal circuit.

From what all I read, it is the Hazard switch , which is a known problem I havent heard of yet but ordered one and will replace.

It has nothing to do with the LED lights, the radio flyer module fixed all the hyper flash issues months ago.

Thanks for your input
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pizzano
...turn signal would just stay solid no flashing.

I have LED rears with the radio flyer hyper flash module, havent had a problem until now.

Lights work normal, E flasher works normal, now when I got home and let it sit for a bit , and tried the turn signals they worked again, so I am thinking maybe something gets heated up on long hauls, just a guess...
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...From what all I read, it is the Hazard switch , which is a known problem I havent heard of yet but ordered one and will replace...
In our cars the turn signal and hazard functions are provided by the hazard switch. The hyperflash harness replaces the portion that handles the turn signals with a flasher that's LED friendly. Hazards will still hyperflash because that function remains untouched in the OEM hazard switch.

Since you already have a hyperflash harness installed, the hazard switch is not controlling anymore the turn signals flashing action. It is possible that the flasher in the hyperflash harness has failed. You could try replacing it. It is not expensive and it is easy to do.

You can use a LED flasher like the one below. It can handle loads from 20mA to 20A without a problem.



Amazon.com: 3-Pin CF-13 Electronic Flasher Relay Fix For LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs: Automotive Amazon.com: 3-Pin CF-13 Electronic Flasher Relay Fix For LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs: Automotive

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In our cars the turn signal and hazard functions are provided by the hazard switch. The hyperflash harness replaces the portion that handles the turn signals with a flasher that's LED friendly. Hazards will still hyperflash because that function remains untouched in the OEM hazard switch.

Since you already have a hyperflash harness installed, the hazard switch is not controlling anymore the turn signals flashing action. It is possible that the flasher in the hyperflash harness has failed. You could try replacing it. It is not expensive and it is easy to do.

You can use a LED flasher like the one below. It can handle loads from 20mA to 20A without a problem.



Amazon.com: 3-Pin CF-13 Electronic Flasher Relay Fix For LED Turn Signal Light Bulbs: Automotive
so does this module you picture replace the Radio flyer hyperflash module, or is this wired in with the radio flyer module still in tact, Thanks
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Originally Posted by Pizzano
so does this module you picture replace the Radio flyer hyperflash module, or is this wired in with the radio flyer module still in tact, Thanks
A hyperflash harness is just a LED friendly flasher wired with a pair of male and female connectors, so it can be inserted without having to cut or splice any wires (see picture below). It would be a matter of just replacing that flasher with a new one. Just pull the old one from the harness and put the new flasher where the old one was. You'll probably won't even have to remove the harness to swap the flashers.


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Originally Posted by GCG
A hyperflash harness is just a LED friendly flasher wired with a pair of male and female connectors, so it can be inserted without having to cut or splice any wires (see picture below). It would be a matter of just replacing that flasher with a new one. Just pull the old one from the harness and put the new flasher where the old one was. You'll probably won't even have to remove the harness to swap the flashers.

Problem I am having is the radio flyer harness flasher has the B/+-E/- terminals flipped compared to all other LED relays , the parts guy at Orielly said it doens matter but I inserted into where the old one was and the turn signals dont even show up at all , compared to the original flahser in the module where the turn signals flash until they stay on solid after a few minutes
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Originally Posted by Pizzano
Problem I am having is the radio flyer harness flasher has the B/+-E/- terminals flipped compared to all other LED relays , the parts guy at Orielly said it doens matter but I inserted into where the old one was and the turn signals dont even show up at all , compared to the original flahser in the module where the turn signals flash until they stay on solid after a few minutes
You need a LED friendly flasher with the terminals in the same position than the hyperflash harness' original flasher, otherwise you would need to relocate the flipped wires in the socket to make it coincide with the terminals of the new flasher.

How are the terminals of the hyperflash harness' original flasher compared to the one from Amazon (CF13JL-02)? Are they in the same relative positions?
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Originally Posted by GCG
You need a LED friendly flasher with the terminals in the same position than the hyperflash harness' original flasher, otherwise you would need to relocate the flipped wires in the socket to make it coincide with the terminals of the new flasher.

How are the terminals of the hyperflash harness' original flasher compared to the one from Amazon (CF13JL-02)? Are they in the same relative positions?

Backwards which changes the polarity of the switch, Radio Flyer was nice enough to send me a relay free of charge, so I will try that before I venture into the Hazard switch
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Let us know how it goes
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Let us know how it goes
Well the problem was solved, only question is was it the LED flasher in the radio flyer module or the emergency flasher switch, because I replaced both at same time, I figured if i had to remove the knee panel under dash , I best replace both and do it once.

I also found a write up somewhere where you don't have to remove the whole center console and stereo to get to the emergency Flasher switch for replacement.

You can access it from underneath and snake your hand up , and simply remove the hazard button and get a large Flathead screw driver and firmly tap it so it pops out from the dash , and then just pull it down behind the dash and switch the module and snake it back up and grab it with a needle nose and it snaps back into place and your done.

No reason to do it this way:

http://www.kd5fx.com/HSwitch/HSwitch.htm

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Originally Posted by Pizzano
Well the problem was solved, only question is was it the LED flasher in the radio flyer module or the emergency flasher switch?, because I replaced both at same time , I figured if i had to remove the knee panel under dash , I best replace both and do it once...
It should have been the flasher in the hyperflash harness.

As I mentioned in a post above, in our cars the turn signal and hazard functions are provided by the hazard switch. The hyperflash harness replaces the portion that handles the turn signals with a flasher that's LED friendly. Hazards will still hyperflash because that function remains untouched in the OEM hazard switch.

With a hyperflash harness installed, the hazard switch is not controlling anymore the turn signals flashing action.

I'm glad you were able to fix the problem

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