C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Power Coupler

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 19, 2018 | 07:53 PM
  #1  
smagray04's Avatar
smagray04
Thread Starter
Intermediate
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 39
Likes: 1
From: Illinois
Default Power Coupler

I saw on a YouTube video an item called a Power Coupler, installed with several other mods by the owner. It goes between the intake and the throttle body. According to the video, it eliminates the turbulence caused by the existing piece and feeds more air faster to the throttle body. It costs $20 from MidAmerica and supposedly gives additional 3-5 horsepower.

1. Is this worth considering or is it nonsense?
2. The existing coupler is held by two clamps. The back one is a conventional worm gear clamp, but the front one is not. How would I get it off or would it slide off as I remove the existing one?
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2018 | 08:18 PM
  #2  
001pewter's Avatar
001pewter
Race Director
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 13,175
Likes: 129
From: Louisiana
St.. Jude Donor '17-'18
Default

Looks better than factory. Front clamp slides off. It's kinda a pain though. Hp claims may be questionable if that's the only mod.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2018 | 09:53 AM
  #3  
Gordy M's Avatar
Gordy M
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,791
Likes: 355
From: Northville, MI
Default

More than likely you will end with a loss of 3-5 hp. The PCM has 96K of programmable data and the remainder is an Adaptive Strategy GM made during the early testing of the C5. By going to a smooth coupler you are increasing the velocity, slightly, of air entering the Throttle Body. The TB is smaller and will restrict the flow of air, slowing it down. Since the MAF had already adjusted the PCM on the air flow to go through the accordion coupler less gas will be used at the injectors and you will run leaner. Since the TB is the limiting factor for any benefit to be found is to have your PCM reprogrammed. When the early versions of the Veraram were introduced, they often experience stumbling/stalling on decel, the cooler air, ambient, air was more dense and had more oxygen going into the cylinder with lower amount of fuel going through the injectors. Later versions of Veraram eliminated many of these problems.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2018 | 10:40 AM
  #4  
001pewter's Avatar
001pewter
Race Director
 
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 13,175
Likes: 129
From: Louisiana
St.. Jude Donor '17-'18
Default

Originally Posted by Gordy M
More than likely you will end with a loss of 3-5 hp. The PCM has 96K of programmable data and the remainder is an Adaptive Strategy GM made during the early testing of the C5. By going to a smooth coupler you are increasing the velocity, slightly, of air entering the Throttle Body. The TB is smaller and will restrict the flow of air, slowing it down. Since the MAF had already adjusted the PCM on the air flow to go through the accordion coupler less gas will be used at the injectors and you will run leaner. Since the TB is the limiting factor for any benefit to be found is to have your PCM reprogrammed. When the early versions of the Veraram were introduced, they often experience stumbling/stalling on decel, the cooler air, ambient, air was more dense and had more oxygen going into the cylinder with lower amount of fuel going through the injectors. Later versions of Veraram eliminated many of these problems.
I've got a Vararam sitting around, that's why I'm hesitant to put it on. Had stumbling issues with a conical filter around 45 mph letting off the gas.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2018 | 11:44 AM
  #5  
jglassmaker's Avatar
jglassmaker
Pro
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 537
Likes: 100
From: Madison WI
Default

Seems to be some confusion here...

Unless there are "leaks" between the throttle body and the MAF - any flow modifications to the throttle body will in fact be seen by the MAF, I'm afraid physics prevents the amount of air between two sealed points from changing.

The PCM that calculates and controls how the engine runs actually has what is called fuel trim calculations it makes to adjust for changing conditions like weather and altitude which typically happen often and alters the normal airflow that comes into the engine. This can adjust for small changes in how the air flows into the engine like better air intakes and such. This is not an instant adjustment and takes miles of driving to "learn" and calculate the needed adjustments.

Now once you have started changing enough of the engine airflow characteristics and the PCM adjustments are taken to their limit they begin to have less accuracy and eventually hit a limit where it cannot adjust the fuel any further. This is where tuning comes in, where the computer adjustments are "zeroed out" by modifying the programmed tables with new data.

So generally speaking you will not lose HP from increasing airflow in any area of an engine because the computer has the ability to add more fuel itself based on how it is running.

How do I know all this? Because I tune these cars.
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2018 | 10:02 AM
  #6  
Gordy M's Avatar
Gordy M
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 2,791
Likes: 355
From: Northville, MI
Default

One of the problems you encounter in tuning is the C5 uses a 16 bit (1990 PS2) computer chip and eventually small changes can be smooth out to some degree, most Corvette owners will not have the patience for the 40-50 engine cycles for that to happen. The C6 went to a 32 bit computer and helped eliminate this problem. In our club we had several engineers who worked on the development of the C5 and C6 engine management software and that is what they they told us.
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2018 | 07:41 PM
  #7  
sirdano's Avatar
sirdano
Melting Slicks
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
Liked
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,264
Likes: 222
From: Round Rock Texas
Default

Those thing were good for carburetor engines as it help smooth out the air before it went into the carburetor.

On fuel injection it is a paper weight that lightens your wallet
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Power Coupler





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:12 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE