C5 piston slap?
08-14-2018, 01:00 PM
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08-15-2018, 10:40 AM
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08-15-2018, 10:47 AM
#24
Haha I’m not a vette owner but I do have an ls1 and yes the car cold is the noisest thing ever. Sounds like rod bearing letting go. Plus cammed and longtubes sounds really echo good. I hate piston slap but that noise is only present for less than 5 minutes. If it’s not traceable to rpm speed and metal on metal tapping I wouldn’t be concerned. However lookup ls1 bent push rod clips and compare sound. That noise is 100% the same as a bum lifter from my experience however nice thick oil sometimes shuts a lifter up. If it’s an m6 ever miss a shift or run it hard? Push rod straightness is easy to check. But I think you’re stressing out some. When I put my 42lb injectors in I noticed the pulse of them is louder too and I searched for exhaust leak for an hour before I figured it out lol.
08-15-2018, 02:19 PM
#25
The car is an m6, ive only had it for a month or so and never missed a shift personally. I did pull the valve covers and make sure no rockers were loose and nothing looked bent. I didn't actually pull the pushrods but they looked fine from what I could see.
08-15-2018, 02:36 PM
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can you post a video? I'm curious to see what yours sounds like
08-16-2018, 01:07 AM
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use the old screwdriver handle in the ear trick and see if you can isolate the noise... on my old f-body trans am the evap solenoid was making a constant tapping that sounded similar, this may not be your issue but just an example
08-16-2018, 04:28 AM
#29
also have you removed the belts and started car to verify it’s not a pulley or tensioner being weak?
Last edited by Lt1slowerbird; 08-16-2018 at 04:30 AM.
08-17-2018, 01:11 PM
#30
Liftter noise is something most have to live wiht on LSx motors.
Mine started doing it about a month from taking delivery, with 180k sometimes it sounds like its coming apart, other days not so much
Using Dino oil made a huge difference in the noise, plain old 10/30 or 10/40 does the trick. Think all the syn I used was wasted money.
Mine started doing it about a month from taking delivery, with 180k sometimes it sounds like its coming apart, other days not so much
Using Dino oil made a huge difference in the noise, plain old 10/30 or 10/40 does the trick. Think all the syn I used was wasted money.
I can always hear some valve train clatter after starting, and it goes away to the point that I can't hear it in the cabin after a few minutes. But if I stick my head under the hood, it's definitely still there, and it's been that way for as long as I've owned it. *shrug* I do find it interesting that your symptoms were alleviated with heavier dino oil. I tried to same thing all the way to 20W-50 (**** it, I'm in Florida), and if anything that made it worse. Ultimately I decided that it was quietest with the good old synthetic M1 5W-30 that GM told me to use. (I also burn the least of that)
And just FYI FWIW OP (LOL) ... I can't hear what you're hearing, but piston slap is a much different noise and also a very difficult sound to capture. I think the best way to describe is it sounds like a very subtle diesel *clacking*. Like sort of a hollow knocking sound coming from lower in the engine. And this is also very common in engines that use forged pistons. It is not limited to the LS mills.
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08-17-2018, 02:28 PM
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As far as lifter noise in these motors I know alot of ppl say it is normal. What bothers me about mine and why I don't consider it normal is because I am pretty sure mine is just one lifter making noise. I have narrowed it down to coming from cylinder 3 by using a stethoscope. I dont know if the op's situation is the same but mine sounds to only be one lifter.
08-17-2018, 08:02 PM
#32
Thanks for all the replies fellas. I finally got a chance to make a cold start video for you guys to see what you think. Definitely sounds 90% better once its fully up to temp.
Last edited by Millhousemx; 08-17-2018 at 08:03 PM.
08-17-2018, 08:16 PM
#33
Hood up engine warm video would be better IMO.
But speaking oil I personally like 0-40 I do believe it’s Mobil 1. I haven’t done an oil change in a long time. Don’t put many miles on it since heads and cam.
But speaking oil I personally like 0-40 I do believe it’s Mobil 1. I haven’t done an oil change in a long time. Don’t put many miles on it since heads and cam.
08-17-2018, 08:24 PM
#34
I will try and make a video of it warm tomorrow and post for comparison. Im running 0w40 castrol right now.
08-17-2018, 08:31 PM
#35
Thanks for all the replies fellas. I finally got a chance to make a cold start video for you guys to see what you think. Definitely sounds 90% better once its fully up to temp.
https://youtu.be/c0Pb-Fnxek0
https://youtu.be/c0Pb-Fnxek0
08-18-2018, 09:33 AM
#36
Or if you have been using the Castrol Edge 0w-40, try the Castrol Edge 5w-40 next time.
Last edited by JHrinsin; 08-18-2018 at 04:57 PM.
08-18-2018, 07:15 PM
#37
Hood up video each side of engine bay with a little rev. I don’t think your noise is really bad. Should hear my car when cold haha. Sounds horrible but it’s pretty quiet when warm. Got a little bit of valvetrain noise but my lifters are a bit noisey. And imo Castrol and Mobil 1 are both good. Just use good filters. Lt1 I liked the k&n just because of the nut it was easy to remove lol. I may have a video of my car hot. I’ll have to look for you to compare
08-19-2018, 10:57 AM
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08-19-2018, 01:24 PM
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Is your motor any quieter with the dino oil compared to synthetic? I may put some dino in to see if it affects the tapping in my motor, just to help confirm it's lifter noise.