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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:28 PM
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New to me previously neglected 2000 corvette came with many problems. Been sorting through them. Finally got the a/c to work after scratching my head and using forum searches. I ask this question because I have no point of reference. The compressor runs, the air coming out of all vents is nice and cold. Checked the refrigerant charge and it is at 45 psi on the low side and 350 on the high side. Seems within normal to me based on past experience and as I said, the air is cold. Also, all fan speeds work with noticeable increase in speed for each setting. Air blows out of all locations with change of dial (btw manual system). But, the car never really cools. Now to be fair, it is Florida and 97 degrees and the car is black on black but, my crappy hyundai gets much cooler. The only thing that seems off to me is that the amount of air blowing out of the vents seems low even at the highest settings. Are these systems marginal or do I have a problem? Opinions appreciated. Thanks, PaulO
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:33 PM
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If the pressures are that at 2000 RPM, I think they are a bit high. Overcharged can cause poor cooling. There are some great AC guys here, I used this post when I checked mine and it's been really solid.

Humidity plays a pretty significant part in it too along with temp and pressures.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-ac-101-a.html

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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:42 PM
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Your vacuum valves are switching correctly, i.e. you can set for dash vents without massive air flow also coming out of the defroster or floor vents? If the vacuum valves work, then I suspect you're finding out what having the exhaust directly under the center console and torque tube does for HVAC effectivity...
Don't try keeping a Hershey bar in the console.
On the other hand, if the air is coming out of literally all the vents, then you have more Google searching to do, relative to a broken vacuum line under the battery tray.
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Old Sep 6, 2019 | 09:48 PM
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Redzg - thanks for your reply. The air flow changes with the control and does not seem to come out anywhere it is not supposed to. Wondering if maybe the fan controller or a bad fan can produce slow fan speeds even though there is a noticeable difference when the fan controller switch is moved up or down the settings.
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Pressures are 45 and 350 at idle.
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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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Both of those pressures are too high. My C5 was just checked by Rob. If I remember correctly my pressure was 30-35 lbs on the the low side and around 230 on the high side. A rule of thumb is that the high side should be twice the ambient temperature +50.
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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 08:57 AM
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Looks like an overcharge to me !!!!...with 96-105 on the temp and relative humidity greater than 40% you're looking at 31-35 on the low side and 221-305 on the high !!

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Old Sep 7, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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Thank you all.
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Originally Posted by Ed Ramberger
If the pressures are that at 2000 RPM... ...I used this post when I checked mine and it's been really solid.

Humidity plays a pretty significant part in it too along with temp and pressures.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-ac-101-a.html
That post has proven very useful time and time again, especially the pressures chart it has, as well as the proper procedures for the readings to be meaningful

Originally Posted by Oettpo
...Checked the refrigerant charge and it is at 45 psi on the low side and 350 on the high side... ...it is Florida and 97 degrees...
Pressures vary not only with temperature, but with humidity and the RPMs of the engine, and without the last 2 parameters it's impossible to tell if your readings are normal or not.

According to the attached chart, for a 100°F temperature @ 2000 RPM, these are the expected pressures for the following values of relative humidity:
  • 50%
    • Low - 40
    • High - 350
    • Center Vent Temp - 69°F
  • 60%
    • Low - 43
    • High - 360
    • Center Vent Temp - 73°F
  • 70%
    • Low - 44
    • High - 365
    • Center Vent Temp - 75°F

It seems you're in the ballpark, considering the high humidity levels in Florida, but only if you took your readings at 2000 RPM.

I suggest you retake your readings following the procedure summarized below and report back

Although not essential, a Thermometer will give you a better idea of the A/C system health. You can get
<b>one of these</b> one of these
for around 5 bucks:


As mentioned above, take a look at this Post. It has detailed instructions to check/add refrigerant.

-These are the CliffsNotes:
First you'll need to find the current ambient temperature and humidity. Then, using the chart below, determine your target values for:
  • High Pressure
  • Low Pressure and
  • Center Vent Temp.

Now proceed to take your readings. Make sure you take them with (otherwise readings will be affected):
  • Engine @ 2000 rpm
  • A/C in coldest setting
  • Fan at maximum speed
  • Both windows down
  • Thermometer in center air vent






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Thank you very much. I will recheck
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