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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 07:00 PM
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Hi everyone. I’m new to the forum and need some help with my 01 z06. It has 130,000 miles on it currently and i haven’t had any major issues until recently. My traction control and abs light were on and so I pulled the codes and sent my ebcm off for repair. Ebcm couldn’t be repaired so I purchased a rebuild one. Traction control and abs lights are still coming on when I move it and now getting the codes pcm-1041c, 1571h, 1638hc, TCS- c1228h, c1235h, c1277h, Adam-u1040h, radio-no comm, Ldcm-b2263h, b2265h, and scm-no comm. Any idea on what I have going on? Oh yeah I almost forgot that I have a charging fault message still showing even after I had the alternator rebuilt and re-grounded.
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Old Apr 21, 2020 | 07:13 PM
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I would clear all your codes and see what comes back and take it from there. You can check the wiring harness and wires for the sensors at your wheels, for chaffed or frayed wires. Just an idea. Good luck.
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I would clear all your codes and see what comes back and take it from there. You can check the wiring harness and wires for the sensors at your wheels, for chaffed or frayed wires. Just an idea. Good luck.

Okay, thanks. I’ll try that.
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Originally Posted by Will23
...I have a charging fault message still showing even after I had the alternator rebuilt and re-grounded.
Did they install new brushes to the original voltage regulator and kept it, or was it replaced? If during the rebuild process they replaced the voltage regulator, they might have installed the wrong one. Click here for info and links to the correct voltage regulators.

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Old Apr 22, 2020 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Will23
...Traction control and abs lights are still coming on when I move it and now getting the codes pcm-1041c, 1571h, 1638hc, TCS- c1228h, c1235h, c1277h, Adam-u1040h, radio-no comm, Ldcm-b2263h, b2265h, and scm-no comm. Any idea on what I have going on?...
The no-comm codes might be the consequence of a corrupted Serial Data Bus.

This is a well known problem and you can read more here. It is usually caused by bad contacts in a connector within the doors' rubber accordion that could corrupt the Serial Data Bus, impacting the normal data flow.

The Serial Data Bus goes through each rubber accordion to the corresponding door control module. The female pins of the connector on that wire harness get deformed (see picture below), causing bad contacts and loss of communication/corruption in the Serial Data Bus and affecting all modules linked by it.



Check the connectors for deformed pins. If bad pins are found you would need to repair the connector (disconnect the battery first), fixing the female pins so they have a positive grip, or replace it. If you want to replace the connector take a look at this post for some ideas.

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Yes, they replaced the voltage regulator even though everything on the alternator tested fine.
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Yes, they replaced the voltage regulator even though everything on the alternator tested fine.
It seems they didn't use the right one, that's why you're having this problem now. I gave you a link with the correct voltage regulators above in Post 5.

They just should have installed new brushes and kept the original regulator.
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You may also want to check your wheel speed sensors. Take the tire off and you should see the sensor. Disconnect it and clean the electrical contacts, also make sure the wiring is not loose. Having just one of these without a good connection can cause problems with traction control and/or ABS.
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You may also want to check your wheel speed sensors. Take the tire off and you should see the sensor. Disconnect it and clean the electrical contacts, also make sure the wiring is not loose. Having just one of these without a good connection can cause problems with traction control and/or ABS.
okay, thanks I’ll try that.
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Originally Posted by GCG
It seems they didn't use the right one, that's why you're having this problem now. I gave you a link with the correct voltage regulators above in Post 5.

They just should have installed new brushes and kept the original regulator.
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i had the alternator tested and they said it’s charging fine. Does this seem accurate being that my charge system fault message is still appearing?
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i had the alternator tested and they said it’s charging fine. Does this seem accurate being that my charge system fault message is still appearing?
They are missing the point. Is not that the alternator is bad, is that they used the wrong voltage regulator and your car's PCM is probably not able to turn it on, or it is turning on, but it doesn't have the required soft-start.

They should have kept the original one and just replaced the brushes. Most likely they already discarded it and that's not an option anymore, so the only solution would be to replace the voltage regulator again, but this time use the correct one linked in Post 5 above.

Take a look at this post for an in-depth analysis of the C5 alternator.

What makes this alternator so peculiar is that it is excited when its regulator receives a turn on signal of 10v at limited current provided by the PCM through the L wire. Not all regulators accept the turn on signal provided by the C5 PCM.

Another distinctive attribute described by Lionelhutz in this post:
The stock alternator has a soft turn-on regulator. You can watch how slowly the voltage increases when the engine starts. So, I suspect the message is caused by some aftermarket units that do not have a soft-start and basically jump to a high duty cycle until the voltage rises and the duty cycle drops again. The PCM is seeing the duty cycle go too high which triggers the charge fault message in the DIC.

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Originally Posted by GCG
They are missing the point. Is not that the alternator is bad, is that they used the wrong voltage regulator and your car's PCM is probably not able to turn it on, or it is turning on, but it doesn't have the required soft-start.

They should have kept the original one and just replaced the brushes. Most likely they already discarded it and that's not an option anymore, so the only solution would be to replace the voltage regulator again, but this time use the correct one linked in Post 5 above.

Take a look at this post for an in-depth analysis of the C5 alternator.

What makes this alternator so peculiar is that it is excited when its regulator receives a turn on signal of 10v at limited current provided by the PCM through the L wire. Not all regulators accept the turn on signal provided by the C5 PCM.

Another distinctive attribute described by Lionelhutz in this post:
Wow, I didn’t realize that it would actually make that much difference. Thanks for the help and I’ll try to contact them tomorrow if they’re open due to the current status of some smaller businesses.
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Regulator info - if not one of these you will get charging system error codes even though it tests good. It is a special discrete circuit most are unaware of.


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Wow, I didn’t realize that it would actually make that much difference. Thanks for the help and I’ll try to contact them tomorrow if they’re open due to the current status of some smaller businesses.
Let us know how it goes. This is the link again to the post with the correct voltage regulators, including more details and additional links, I compiled back in 2016:

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[QUOTE=GCG;1601391302]Let us know how it goes. This is the link again to the post with the correct voltage regulators, including more details and additional links, I compiled back in 2016:
Thanks for your help.They replaced the voltage regulator with the correct one and now it’s working fine without the charge system fault message.
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Originally Posted by Will23
Thanks for your help.They replaced the voltage regulator with the correct one and now it’s working fine without the charge system fault message.
I'm glad everything is fine now!
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