Started then just died.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Gold Canyon AZ
Started then just died.
My 99 has mostly been sitting the past couple of years. but every time I've started it, no issues.
Today, when I need to get it out of our now old house, it started no problem, puller it out of garage, let it idle and 2 minutes later it just shut off.
Tried restarting, no fire. cranks over, just wont fire.
Usually i'd do my searches here first, but I'm in a HUGE bind. Need to move is ASAP, as house is going on the market next week
ANY help will be much appreciated
Today, when I need to get it out of our now old house, it started no problem, puller it out of garage, let it idle and 2 minutes later it just shut off.
Tried restarting, no fire. cranks over, just wont fire.
Usually i'd do my searches here first, but I'm in a HUGE bind. Need to move is ASAP, as house is going on the market next week
ANY help will be much appreciated
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My 99 has mostly been sitting the past couple of years. but every time I've started it, no issues.
Today, when I need to get it out of our now old house, it started no problem, puller it out of garage, let it idle and 2 minutes later it just shut off.
Tried restarting, no fire. cranks over, just wont fire.
Usually i'd do my searches here first, but I'm in a HUGE bind. Need to move is ASAP, as house is going on the market next week
ANY help will be much appreciated
Today, when I need to get it out of our now old house, it started no problem, puller it out of garage, let it idle and 2 minutes later it just shut off.
Tried restarting, no fire. cranks over, just wont fire.
Usually i'd do my searches here first, but I'm in a HUGE bind. Need to move is ASAP, as house is going on the market next week
ANY help will be much appreciated
So have you narrowed this down to either a fuel delivery issue or maybe a crank sensor ??...if crank sensor you will have no spark and no injector pulse.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I called him,,, He is very busy trying to move to sell his house. He stated that the fuel pump primed when he turned the key to ON. The battery was weak due to many attempts to start it and is on charge. Will know more tomorrow.
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Thanks Bill for the update !!!...BTW I retired end of June, sold my house, bought a house in Southwest Florida and the closing is on Friday !!...LOVE it down here...a LOT of Corvettes around here !!
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Boy, HOUSE SELLING seems to be ramped. Im in the middle of getting my two houses ready to sell here in CT. Cant wait to get the FLOCK out of this state and move to El Paso TX. Already have a house there. Time to RETIRE (Jan) and head SOUTH WEST!!!!!! Bad part is I broke my leg and have to work around that PIA no weigh bearing issue on the left leg.
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Boy, HOUSE SELLING seems to be ramped. Im in the middle of getting my two houses ready to sell here in CT. Cant wait to get the FLOCK out of this state and move to El Paso TX. Already have a house there. Time to RETIRE (Jan) and head SOUTH WEST!!!!!! Bad part is I broke my leg and have to work around that PIA no weigh bearing issue on the left leg.
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Sorry for not replying, I'm not getting emails that others were replying to the thread.
Followed Bill's first 2 steps.
pump is priming, and I'm getting fuel out of the Schrader valve.
Gas smells bad though.
I'm going to check spark tonight when I go to move more stuff.
Followed Bill's first 2 steps.
pump is priming, and I'm getting fuel out of the Schrader valve.
Gas smells bad though.
I'm going to check spark tonight when I go to move more stuff.
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I want to say thanks to everyone who has offered their help.
And a BIG THANK YOU to Bill Curlee, for his knowledge and time walking me through troubleshooting.
We towed the car to the new house, and I'll get back at trying to fix it next weekend.
I don't think bad gas is the issue, started to drain the tank, and it did not smell bad, like the fuel coming out of the schrader valve did.
I'm going to get a fuel pressure gauge this week and check that.
The car will fire sometimes, but will only idle for a few seconds.
Again, thanks to all. This is the BEST forum, period.
And a BIG THANK YOU to Bill Curlee, for his knowledge and time walking me through troubleshooting.
We towed the car to the new house, and I'll get back at trying to fix it next weekend.
I don't think bad gas is the issue, started to drain the tank, and it did not smell bad, like the fuel coming out of the schrader valve did.
I'm going to get a fuel pressure gauge this week and check that.
The car will fire sometimes, but will only idle for a few seconds.
Again, thanks to all. This is the BEST forum, period.
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From: Anthony TX
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I had him pull the DTCs several times. Directly after the engine starts and dies (without turning off the ignition) and ZERO DTCs pop. STRANGE.. I suspect that he is loosing fuel pressure after the initial prime but that can not be verified until he puts a fuel pressure gage on the fuel shrader.
I initially suspected that he had a bad ignition switch but he measured all of the BCM & PCM fuses in the ON/RUN position and he had good battery voltage on all the fuses. He also changed / swapped the horn and fuel relays around so, it most likely not a relay issue.
SO, we are waiting on a valid fuel pressure check to see if he looses pressure after crank and run.
Bill
I initially suspected that he had a bad ignition switch but he measured all of the BCM & PCM fuses in the ON/RUN position and he had good battery voltage on all the fuses. He also changed / swapped the horn and fuel relays around so, it most likely not a relay issue.
SO, we are waiting on a valid fuel pressure check to see if he looses pressure after crank and run.
Bill
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Burning Brakes
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FINALLY had some time last week to try and figure this out.
I bought a fuel pressure gauge (Harbor Freight). Shows ZERO PSI with key in "ON" or when cranking.
I can hear the pump prime.
I thought maybe bad gas, but after checking pressure several times, when I remove the gauge the gas looks clean and does not smell bad like it did when Bill Curlee had me see if fuel would come out at the schrader on the rail.
Definitely getting spark.
Changed the filter, still no start or pressure.
When I bleed off the fuel in the rail and try to start is when it fires for a second then dies.
I bought a fuel pressure gauge (Harbor Freight). Shows ZERO PSI with key in "ON" or when cranking.
I can hear the pump prime.
I thought maybe bad gas, but after checking pressure several times, when I remove the gauge the gas looks clean and does not smell bad like it did when Bill Curlee had me see if fuel would come out at the schrader on the rail.
Definitely getting spark.
Changed the filter, still no start or pressure.
When I bleed off the fuel in the rail and try to start is when it fires for a second then dies.