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Old Jun 7, 2021 | 11:07 AM
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I have a 2004 C5 Vert that is having AC issue....last year it stopped blowing cold and when I tried the DIY auto parts stuff the gauge said something was seriously wrong...so took it to Firestone and they replaced what appears to me to be everything:

COMPRESSOR W/NEW CLUTCH
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ORIFICE TUBES
COMPLETE EVAC AND RECHARGE

2 days later the AC starts blowing warm again.(I should note at the time it was my mother's vehicle and she had driven it home 3 hours away)

At the time of repairing all the other crap, the Firestone noted possible evaporator core leak.....How difficult of a job is that to do myself?

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Old Jun 7, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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OK, so I did a little searching(should have started there) and see that job is a royal PITA

Is there a way to test the system to find out if that really is the issue?
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First off whoever replaced all those parts didn’t do a very good job of finding your leak first !!…it could have been an evaporator leak in the first place…depending if the system is completely empty or not you may have to get at least 1 pound of Freon in the system to at least begin looking for a leak…to find an evaporator leak you’ll have to see where the drain tube is located…just see where the water is dripping from underneath the car and you’ll need an electronic Halogen leak detector or a “sniffer” as they call them.
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First off whoever replaced all those parts didn’t do a very good job of finding your leak first !!…it could have been an evaporator leak in the first place…depending if the system is completely empty or not you may have to get at least 1 pound of Freon in the system to at least begin looking for a leak…to find an evaporator leak you’ll have to see where the drain tube is located…just see where the water is dripping from underneath the car and you’ll need an electronic Halogen leak detector or a “sniffer” as they call them.

Yes, the Firestone definitely took my mom for a ride. I questioned it, but since i wasn't paying and she said "just do it" , I said OK.To be honest, not knowing much about AC I assumed replacing the compressor, etc would fix the issue.

I should likely just take it to an AC shop local and have them check it for me I would guess to be sure. I am prepping the car to sell for my mom, so it would be nice to be able to tell people exactly what is wrong
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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 06:45 AM
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In my experience the evaporator my not be the culprit, I agree put a can of freon in and leak check the condenser and hoses. AC condensers in a 2004 car is more likely since they are exposed to the environment.
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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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In my experience the evaporator my not be the culprit, I agree put a can of freon in and leak check the condenser and hoses. AC condensers in a 2004 car is more likely since they are exposed to the environment.
I would think the same but they replaced the accumulator....that is the same thing as a condenser I thought?
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Old Jun 8, 2021 | 09:34 AM
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I would think the same but they replaced the accumulator....that is the same thing as a condenser I thought?
condensor is not the same as the accumulator. Condenser sits on top of your radiator. I would recharge the system with Freon and dye and use a black light to try and find the leak. Sounds like Firestone really took you for a ride. Bummer.
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Can not believe they didnt do a vacuum check for a leak. Most basic test instead of launching parts at it.
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condensor is not the same as the accumulator. Condenser sits on top of your radiator. I would recharge the system with Freon and dye and use a black light to try and find the leak. Sounds like Firestone really took you for a ride. Bummer.
If the leak is in the evaporator, you will see the dye dripping out in the water that puddles under the car when the AC is running.
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If the leak is in the evaporator, you will see the dye dripping out in the water that puddles under the car when the AC is running.
I’ve never heard of that with C5’s. I’ve always just used a sniffer.
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If you lost your charge in just 2 days after it was serviced, you have a pretty significant leak. You have already spent what, about $1000 or more on the compressor replacement. Before spending another $1000 or more on an evaporator someone needs to do some diagnostics to find the leak. Should not be too difficult for them with that quick of a leak.

of course, there is always a possibility that your leak is with one of the joints that Firestone touched. From what they replaced, they would have opened up joints at the compressor, accumulator in and out, and the liquid line. A pinched o-ring or contaminant at any of the joints may cause a leak.
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Originally Posted by forango
I have a 2004 C5 Vert that is having AC issue....last year it stopped blowing cold and when I tried the DIY auto parts stuff the gauge said something was seriously wrong...so took it to Firestone and they replaced what appears to me to be everything:

COMPRESSOR W/NEW CLUTCH
ACCUMULATOR
ORIFICE TUBES
COMPLETE EVAC AND RECHARGE

2 days later the AC starts blowing warm again.(I should note at the time it was my mother's vehicle and she had driven it home 3 hours away)

At the time of repairing all the other crap, the Firestone noted possible evaporator core leak.....How difficult of a job is that to do myself?
Quit wasting time get the dye it worked gear for. i was fight a leak for ever just could not find it. i didnt know they had dye for a/c. put it in found leak. it took me longer to get under the car then finding the leak. if its not in the engine bay its evap.
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Where do you get the dye at?
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Originally Posted by helga203
Quit wasting time get the dye it worked gear for. i was fight a leak for ever just could not find it. i didnt know they had dye for a/c. put it in found leak. it took me longer to get under the car then finding the leak. if its not in the engine bay its evap.
Another way to tell is if the sniffer detects the leak coming out the interior vents. I believe I have a leak in my evaporator. I've tried the dye, and can't find any leak anywhere. But the sniffer goes off slowly when held against the interior vents. OP, I priced having this done for me at C&S Corvettes in Sarasota, Florida. They're very good. This job is a PITA, one of the worst on a C5. My car is now over 21 years old. All 3 air blend doors are not working properly, and the heater core is, obviously, 21 years old, too. When you're in that far to replace the Evap, you may as well do the heater core, and anything else that's 20+ years old. I was quoted a price in the $1,700-$1,800 range. It is what it is. If you lived near me, I'd let you test your car with my sniffer. Best of luck to you.......
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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Another way to tell is if the sniffer detects the leak coming out the interior vents. I believe I have a leak in my evaporator. I've tried the dye, and can't find any leak anywhere. But the sniffer goes off slowly when held against the interior vents. OP, I priced having this done for me at C&S Corvettes in Sarasota, Florida. They're very good. This job is a PITA, one of the worst on a C5. My car is now over 21 years old. All 3 air blend doors are not working properly, and the heater core is, obviously, 21 years old, too. When you're in that far to replace the Evap, you may as well do the heater core, and anything else that's 20+ years old. I was quoted a price in the $1,700-$1,800 range. It is what it is. If you lived near me, I'd let you test your car with my sniffer. Best of luck to you.......
I appreciate it.....if I was keeping the car I'd likely already have the dash out because the HUD thing isn't right either, but since we are selling it I just want to know accurately what to tell new buyers
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Originally Posted by forango
I appreciate it.....if I was keeping the car I'd likely already have the dash out because the HUD thing isn't right either, but since we are selling it I just want to know accurately what to tell new buyers
maybe u get luchy where they don't care about A/C.
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Old Jun 9, 2021 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by helga203
maybe u get luchy where they don't care about A/C.
LOL....IN FL, they are gonna care unfortaunately LOL
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Originally Posted by forango
LOL....IN FL, they are gonna care unfortaunately LOL
im there to give u go luck.
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Originally Posted by helga203
im there to give u go luck.
thanks!
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