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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 05:32 AM
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Hey guys so I have an 01 Z06 and have a stage 4 BTR cam kit going in, I have no idea on what heads to throw on with it since it’s such a big cam. Any suggestions? Also need some suggestions on injectors (brands, specs etc.) thank you!
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Hey guys so I have an 01 Z06 and have a stage 4 BTR cam kit going in, I have no idea on what heads to throw on with it since it’s such a big cam. Any suggestions? Also need some suggestions on injectors (brands, specs etc.) thank you!
Call BTR to get a read on what they reccomend with their Stage 4 cam. You can also reach out to Tony Mamo for a reccomendation on heads. Tony provides some of the best customer support and guidance you'll ever recieve.

My suggestion would be to also gear your car with a cam that big. Big cam needs more gear. That cam will want more gear down low to improve low speed driveability and get you into the powerband quicker.

Night and day difference post gearing. You'll be glad you did it.
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PS...I run a 232/236/113 cam in my car. MN6 coupe. I have a set of West Coast Cylinder Heads Stage 2 241 heads that got more port work from my builder. They bench flow tested much better than my stock 246 heads that only came out of the box once. A set of Mamo heads would blow either of mine out of the water. My LS1 still made 428rwhp/398rwtq when it was NA on stock injectors.

Adding 4.10s really woke the car up down low and improved low speed driveability 10 fold. I will never run a big cam NA without gears. In the M12 I would go with a 3.90 if it were me. But it all depends on your intentions with the car and how deep your pockets go.
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I agree with Johnny. A wild cam would really benefit from deeper gears. A 3.90, or 4.10 would make a huge difference in drivability AND performance.
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Why run a donkey dick cam? I mean really, what thought process are you using to establish this is the cam for you?

That thing is going to chug like a freight train at low speeds and you will likely get beat by a car with a cam half that size.

I mean if you are honest with yourself that you are doing it for the sound and sound only that is fine. Beware of the tuning challenges ahead.

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I'd stick to a stage 2 or 3 if it was me. Just have your 243s ported by mamo or AI if it's in your budget.

I run a .592 / .602 - 230 / 236 114 in my 01Z. I just switched to 3.90s and it's definitely more parking lot friendly.

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Why run a donkey dick cam? I mean really, what thought process are you using to establish this is the cam for you?

That thing is going to chug like a freight train at low speeds and you will likely get beat by a car with a cam half that size.

I mean if you are honest with yourself that you are doing it for the sound and sound only that is fine. Beware of the tuning challenges ahead.
Not sure what your intended purpose or goals are for your car, but it isn’t going to be very street friendly.

Not to be a smart a$$, because I’m no expert by any means, but I suggest you put a lot more time and research into your build before moving forward. My cam is smaller than that (LG G5X3 112 LSA), and until I found a great tuner, my car ran like pooh. Didn’t idle worth a crap and surged at steady highway speeds.

I recommend you talk with whoever will be tuning your car and seek their advice. A good tuner will know what good combinations of parts work well together and will give you good drivability/street manors at the same time.
A performance parts dealer will sell you anything you can afford.
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I appreciate all the feedback, for those saying to stick with a smaller cam, I’ve already purchased the stage 4 and cannot return it at this point. What is the best way to make my car drivable with this cam? Pockets aren’t deep and I’m not super educated with these things just yet. What’s the best way to make my car drivable
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Originally Posted by ryderrojas22
I appreciate all the feedback, for those saying to stick with a smaller cam, I’ve already purchased the stage 4 and cannot return it at this point. What is the best way to make my car drivable with this cam? Pockets aren’t deep and I’m not super educated with these things just yet. What’s the best way to make my car drivable
The BTR Stage 4 is going to make its power above 4k RPM up through 7500rpm. Without supporting mods that are also made for 7500rpm revs you aren't going to net the benefit of such a large cam. But you'll get all of the detractors of a large cam like surging and hunting at lowers rpms. Low speed driving will require clutch and throttle manipulation to navigate parking lot type driving, even with a solid tune.

Like any build a good tune is a must have. A lower gear will also help significantly. A large cam is going to require additional mods that cost more money.

There are enough guys that daily a BTR Stage 4 to support it can be done and enjoyed. But most use this cam for max effort track usage. Not street driving.

Again, I would call BTR and Tony Mamo for their advice. I would also do a search on this forum to connect with others running the BTR Stage 4. Reach out to those folks for firsthand feedback and reccomendations. Learn from them directly what they already know. It may save you time, money, headaches and heartaches.

If running a max effort cam was a simple and cost effective endeavor with great street manners....many more people would do it.

If you determine you're better off selling the BTR Stage 4 for a few dollars lost so be it. I'm pretty sure the cost to get your car where it's fun, fast and enjoyable to drive will be much less expensive with a lesser cam profile.
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Stages aren't as informative as specs. The LSA has as much, or more effect on driveabilty than any other spec. My cam has 17° overlap, but it's in an LS7, which tames it some. But it's going to take a Helluva tuner to tame a stage 4 cam, if the specs are in the ballpark of other stage 4 cams I've seen, for good street use. Just my opinion......
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Originally Posted by ryderrojas22
I appreciate all the feedback, for those saying to stick with a smaller cam, I’ve already purchased the stage 4 and cannot return it at this point. What is the best way to make my car drivable with this cam? Pockets aren’t deep and I’m not super educated with these things just yet. What’s the best way to make my car drivable
I am surprised you can not return the cam, as long as you are returning it for an exchange. If it was a special order, it would be understandable. But they probably sell a fair number of stage 4 cams, and cam kits. It would seem BTR would allow you to exchange the cam for a smaller BTR cam, say a stage 2 or stage 3. Sure, they won't pay shipping, and may charge a $50 restocking fee. Have you actually looked into this possibility, or are you determined to run it, and are blaming them for your circumstances? Not trying to rattle your cage, so don't get upset. I'm just trying to help offer options. In time, I think you'll grow to hate that cam! My .02........

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