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Old May 4, 2022 | 11:43 PM
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Getting really weary of all the senseless bugs in these cars...I'll limit this topic to one in particular. A/C blows frigid air out the center vent while hot air comes out of the passenger side. Defroster will blow hot air out the center and passenger side while the far left driver side blows cool. My question - Is there a way to defeat all this horseshit behind the dash and allow it to blow a constant temp from all vents?
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Old May 5, 2022 | 01:13 AM
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When mine did that, it was low on Freon.

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Old May 5, 2022 | 06:59 AM
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When mine did that, it was low on Freon.
Low refrigerant often shows up with the passenger side blowing cold, but the driver side blowing warm. Sounds like something else going on here with a blend door problem. OP needs to check the codes to diagnose the issue. Attempting to remove the actuators and doors back there will probably not give you a great result.

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Old May 5, 2022 | 11:29 AM
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Seems to me this design was/is way to complicated for the intended purpose. Why in the world would one need "zones" in a small two passenger enclosed space? The major annoyance for me is the defroster...the windshield is prone to fogging at night and wouldn't you know it, the spot right in front of the driver is the one that blows cool air. Living in Florida and the fact this is a convertible the car has been pretty much delegated to early morning and late evening use...I don't see myself ever raising the top again unless I were caught in a rainstorm. The way the system is working currently that would be a miserable event in itself.

Just went out to the garage and also discovered no setting will allow hot air to be blown from the center and driver side vents.

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Old May 5, 2022 | 12:34 PM
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Seems to me this design was/is way to complicated for the intended purpose. Why in the world would one need "zones" in a small two passenger enclosed space? The major annoyance for me is the defroster...the windshield is prone to fogging at night and wouldn't you know it, the spot right in front of the driver is the one that blows cool air. Living in Florida and the fact this is a convertible the car has been pretty much delegated to early morning and late evening use...I don't see myself ever raising the top again unless I were caught in a rainstorm. The way the system is working currently that would be a miserable event in itself.

Just went out to the garage and also discovered no setting will allow hot air to be blown from the center and driver side vents.
Dual zone climate control was considered a big deal back in the mid 90s when these cars were developed. I'm sure a lot of the original buyers found it appealing. Full-manual HVAC was found in the budget-driven FRC cars but nowhere else - even not in the Z06 where weight was so important that thinner glass was specified!

Do you know how to check the codes using the DIC? If you do that and post here we can discuss.

Having owned several German cars over the years, I know all about frustration with seemingly over-complicated engineering, but the C5 HVAC system really doesn't rank with those BMW and Benz issues I've dealt with. Never owned an Audi because that's a whole other level of clusterfuckery!
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Old May 5, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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That's another topic...the DIC is non-operable and apparently non-repairable. One can purchase a used cluster of unknown condition and likely mileage and this "might" fix the issue. One thing after another it seems.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 03:27 PM
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It's an old car so to be expected, depending on how it was treated by previous owners. Good luck.
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None of these issues has a thing to do with previous owners...they were simply a poor design from the beginning.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 05:28 PM
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AC systems on these cars are very simple.

anytime there is problems it either low refrigerant or blend doors.
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Thinking it's mechanical because it does blow cold from some vents. Probably not simple getting at the offending parts lol...
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Old May 5, 2022 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist
Thinking it's mechanical because it does blow cold from some vents. Probably not simple getting at the offending parts lol...
Drivers side blend door is easy to get to and most common failure. Also, most common is low refrigerant. Most are also easy to get to. These cars are very simple!
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Hard to fathom low refrigerant when it blows cold air...maybe it's just me.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist
Hard to fathom low refrigerant when it blows cold air...maybe it's just me.
It definitely is just you. Do some research on the forum about this issue. Very common. However, typically it will be cold out passenger vents and warm drivers side when it’s low refrigerant. In your case, it sounds more like a blend door issue. Check your codes through the DIC. The codes will lead the way for you!
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Old May 5, 2022 | 06:20 PM
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Most likely you have blend door codes. Research the way to reset them manually by pulling fuses in the passenger footwell and resetting the codes through the dic.

also, may want to do some research on whether those blend doors have been replaced in the past. Excellent starting place to narrow the issue. Good luck!!
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist
None of these issues has a thing to do with previous owners...they were simply a poor design from the beginning.
will have to differ with you here. Bought my 2004 CE convertible new. Daily driver, in fact my only car. 133k miles. It’s the most reliable car I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned lots of cars. I’m going to agree with others, PO must not have maintained well.
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will have to differ with you here. Bought my 2004 CE convertible new. Daily driver, in fact my only car. 133k miles. It’s the most reliable car I’ve ever owned. And I’ve owned lots of cars. I’m going to agree with others, PO must not have maintained well.
I guess the previous owners failed to grease the blend doors.

If the rest of you had bothered to read the previous posts you would know that the DIC is inoperable...guess the previous owners neglected to grease those buttons as well.

I have researched numerous threads here on the many oddities of these cars. The fact that there are so many and began early on tells me my instinct is correct...this is just more GM junk passed on to the consumers.
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[QUOTE=HandOverFist;1605097993]I guess the previous owners failed to grease the blend doors.

If the rest of you had bothered to read the previous posts you would know that the DIC is inoperable...guess the previous owners neglected to grease those buttons as well.

I have researched numerous threads here on the many oddities of these cars. The fact that there are so many and began early on tells me my instinct is correct...this is just more GM junk passed on to the consumers. [/QUOTE

Sounds like you need to get a Ford. 🤣🍻
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Originally Posted by HandOverFist
I guess the previous owners failed to grease the blend doors.

If the rest of you had bothered to read the previous posts you would know that the DIC is inoperable...guess the previous owners neglected to grease those buttons as well.

I have researched numerous threads here on the many oddities of these cars. The fact that there are so many and began early on tells me my instinct is correct...this is just more GM junk passed on to the consumers.
So sell the pile of **** and move on. If you are that unhappy with it, that's ok, you can get decent money for it and find something that's more to your liking.
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If your DIC is inop, perhaps investing in an OBD scanner will help. I have an OBDLink MX+. It reads all OBDII codes as well as the GM specific codes. It's been very handy to diagnose the very few issues I have had with my '04.
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Originally Posted by VetteMed
Dual zone climate control was considered a big deal back in the mid 90s when these cars were developed. I'm sure a lot of the original buyers found it appealing. Full-manual HVAC was found in the budget-driven FRC cars but nowhere else - even not in the Z06 where weight was so important that thinner glass was specified!

Do you know how to check the codes using the DIC? If you do that and post here we can discuss.

Having owned several German cars over the years, I know all about frustration with seemingly over-complicated engineering, but the C5 HVAC system really doesn't rank with those BMW and Benz issues I've dealt with. Never owned an Audi because that's a whole other level of clusterfuckery!
My 01 coupe has manual hvac
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