VaraRam Installed, my thoughts...
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (Phil97SVT)
If you have some type of empirical data that states that the product doesn't work then post it. Otherwise keep biased opinions that have no background off of the board. This crap of bashing products is getting old.
I CLEARLY stated that it is possible that the vararam may introduce cooler air into the engine and that may create a doubly helpful effect by putting denser air into the engine and improving the PCM's settings because of the cooler air.
My intial comments are clearly aimed at the ram-air myth.
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (racer44)
It works Phil, you know it, I know it, and many others know it.:)
RG
Yep, Just like the other major brands work too! No one better than the other. :cheers:
RG
Yep, Just like the other major brands work too! No one better than the other. :cheers:
...and maybe one day you'll get one and try it out and see that it makes you faster.:) vrrroooommmmmmmmmmm, vrrrrrroooooommmmmmmmm!!!:):D
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (RG in Dallas)
...and maybe one day you'll get one and try it out and see that it makes you faster.:) vrrroooommmmmmmmmmm, vrrrrrroooooommmmmmmmm!!!:):D
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (racer44)
...and maybe one day you'll get one and try it out and see that it makes you faster.:) vrrroooommmmmmmmmmm, vrrrrrroooooommmmmmmmm!!!:):D
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..or slower :p: put...put..put..put put..plop. :crazy: :D
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..or slower :p: put...put..put..put put..plop. :crazy: :D
Slower is for the guys you try and steer from the VR's greatness and benefit...a FASTER car...there you go...you can have the last word...lol... I know you want it.:cheers::D:)
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[Modified by RG in Dallas, 4:55 PM 1/7/2003]
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (RG in Dallas)
Ok RG, my last word is, (for now) if you got paid on hype alone, you could retire today! :lol: :cheers: :p:
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (racer44)
Ok RG, my last word is, (for now) if you got paid on hype alone, you could retire today! :lol: :cheers: :p:
No need to take shots either, Tony, though I've come to expect that here and elsewhere. Oh well, it's all good..you take care. Have fun and if you need anything, call or write.:cheers: Hype may be what sold you on your intake, I don't know, but, we have many happy customers to vouch for the VR and the Vortex and the Blackwing. We'll be ok.: and so will you.
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (RG in Dallas)
Now RG, I thought you said I got the last word?? Hmmmmm. :skep: :cheers:
**EDIT** I spelled thought wrong so I corrected it. Also, I never, ever said the VR doesn't work. It appears to work as good as the other brands, I have seen some with better results, some with worse. I was going to say they all work better than the stock box, but I don't really know if we can say that anymore, thanks to JRODS dyno numbers. :cheers:
[Modified by racer44, 4:42 PM 1/7/2003]
**EDIT** I spelled thought wrong so I corrected it. Also, I never, ever said the VR doesn't work. It appears to work as good as the other brands, I have seen some with better results, some with worse. I was going to say they all work better than the stock box, but I don't really know if we can say that anymore, thanks to JRODS dyno numbers. :cheers:
[Modified by racer44, 4:42 PM 1/7/2003]
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (Phil97SVT)
WHO CARES! This topic has been beaten to death and it gives me a headache reading this crap. Bottom line: If you dont believe in the product DONT BUY IT! I have had the vararam for roughly 6 weeks now and I am very happy with it. The car has shown a lower IAT temp(compared to the K & N) from the first test drive and a quicker pop off of of a roll. If you have some type of empiracle data that states that the product doesn't work than post it. Otherwise keep biased opinions that have no background off of the board. This crap of bashing products is getting old.
Phillip :cuss
Phillip :cuss
I need to get one. I know it works.
The funny thing about the Vararam is Everyone who has one says they have had "MEASUREABLE" gains at the track..
All the naysayer can sho you all the math in the world as to why it is NOT ram Air.. BUT, not a single one of these College Professors can give a single Real reason for why people are seeing gains over other COLD air intakes.
I firmly believe there is no RAM Air (as defined) but most people forget about the benefit of Positive Air Pressure to maintain the flow of air all the way to the back and far reaches of the intake manifold.
Most cold air intakes just tap "across" the air flow.. This causes turbulence (like blowing air across a coke bottle opening" In fact, if you blow the air across that same bottle fast enough and at the right angle, you can actually cause a vacuum and ultimately suck the contents right out. That is Physics... ;)
The Vararam may not provide True RAM AIR but it does provide the MOST Positive (non mechanical) pressure you could ever attain in your intake. And it Obviously Works...
[Modified by chuckster, 10:44 PM 1/7/2003]
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (Tom Steele)
I CLEARLY stated that it is possible that the vararam may introduce cooler air into the engine and that may create a doubly helpful effect by putting denser air into the engine and improving the PCM's settings because of the cooler air.
My intial comments are clearly aimed at the ram-air myth.
My intial comments are clearly aimed at the ram-air myth.
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (chuckster)
Honestly I think a couple of the reasons that the Vararam works....
1) Filter flows more CFM than a gauze type
2) headunit has a radiused inlet to the MAS.....it has been proven that a radiused inlet helps reduce turbulence while flowing cylinder heads
3) It drops the air intake temps....drawing from the nose of the car will also see radiant heat from the radiator.
Phillip :seeya
1) Filter flows more CFM than a gauze type
2) headunit has a radiused inlet to the MAS.....it has been proven that a radiused inlet helps reduce turbulence while flowing cylinder heads
3) It drops the air intake temps....drawing from the nose of the car will also see radiant heat from the radiator.
Phillip :seeya
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (rbartick)
I CLEARLY stated that it is possible that the vararam may introduce cooler air into the engine and that may create a doubly helpful effect by putting denser air into the engine and improving the PCM's settings because of the cooler air.
My intial comments are clearly aimed at the ram-air myth.
My intial comments are clearly aimed at the ram-air myth.
We are very funny!
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (bparker)
:lol:
We are very funny!
Ok, I will play along :D
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Re: VaraRam Installed, my thoughts... (racer44)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :seeya
:lol:
We are very funny!
Ok, I will play along :D
Ok, I got one more and then I am out! :D
:lol:
We are very funny!
Ok, I will play along :D
Ok, I got one more and then I am out! :D
