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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 09:13 AM
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Just ran the chemistry of a Dorman replacement yellow/white bushing in the Chem lab - result was surprising not a nylon but a high density Polyethylene. Melting point was found 275F. Very low for a tranny area near the exhaust pipe. This is basically milk jug plastic.🫠 I assume the OEM is same material as reports of black and yellow colors are coming back.

Such a poor material choice by GM Materials Engineers - no wonder issues with these. Cost driven🙄

Bottom line is over heating/cycling is the potential problem, along with ozone degradation potential etc. Worse life in hotter states, racing, or long periods in traffic idling etc.

https://www.polymershapes.com/product/high-density-polyethylene-hdpe/


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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 10:26 AM
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HDPE has very good chem resistance and is non-hygroscopic, but is just a commodity resin. Since the part is probably injection molded (and not machined from an extrusion) and is round, it likely fails at the knit line. COPP may have been a better choice with higher heat resistance, but I think if I was designing this part, my first choice would have been Delrin.
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 09:17 PM
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Officehound, and why not aluminum?
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Old Aug 16, 2023 | 09:52 PM
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Officehound, and why not aluminum?
Most optimal would be a bronze bushing - aluminum not the best since no “self” lubrication riding on the steel tranny lever and always exposed to the elements. It will oxidize to an abrasive aluminum oxide.

If a plastic, he’s saying Delrin offers the higher properties and is a higher quality plastic including melting temperature..,and of course higher cost.
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 05:36 PM
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ok Titanium then !
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 07:03 AM
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The ultimate material would be UHMWPE (Ultra High Molecular Weight PolyEthylene). Great lubricity, extremely tough, but very difficult to injection mold in thin walls. It would have to be made from an extruded rod and machined to spec. Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene - Wikipedia
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by officehound
The ultimate material would be UHMWPE (Ultra High Molecular Weight PolyEthylene). Great lubricity, extremely tough, but very difficult to injection mold in thin walls. It would have to be made from an extruded rod and machined to spec. Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene - Wikipedia
We used a lot of UHMW where I spent my career. UHMW and Delrin, both. One was black (UHMW?) and the other white (Delrin?). It has been awhile since I've machined either, so....

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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 05:13 PM
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The natural color for UHMWPE is white. I live near Cincinnati, and in the winter months the city covers the Fountain Square plaza with plastic sheets for 'ice' skating. I believe the material is UHMWPE due to its abrasion resistance and natural lubricity, as this surface is not refrigerated.
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Sadly - all comes down to cost. These bushings are just high density polyethylene with a measured 275F melting point. That’s pretty low for the area they reside. 🤷🏻‍♂️
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For heat resistance a thermoset vs a thermoplastic may be a better choice, but that is beyond my area of expertise.
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Originally Posted by RedC5
To have the ability to get it on the truck like I said, they or you can jack up the rear, get under there and flip the tranny lever one notch forward to get it in neutral. Will make it a lot easier to get on the flatbed.
yep, I shifted mine w/o jacking up the car, if you know what to look for. Quite easy fix, did one from underside under half hour. The one at shifter takes longer to repair.
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Originally Posted by BRKLYN
yep, I shifted mine w/o jacking up the car, if you know what to look for. Quite easy fix, did one from underside under half hour. The one at shifter takes longer to repair.
I have not physically looked but you are saying you reached your arm under to flip the lever and change the bushing? It seems like no way to get your full body under without jacking slightly. 🤷🏻‍♂️ And… you replaced the bushing without jacking - that’s impressive with one arm!

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