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Old May 29, 2024 | 12:18 PM
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A word of warning on these - as I mentioned in the first post they're shipped un-configured, so you'll either need to buy the 17-144 tool, or know someone who has one. There are other TPMS tools that can flash a configuration on these wirelessly, but only the 17-144 tool can do so while powering the sensor in it's cradle. I would be happy to flash a set, but then there's the postage to get them to you. :-\

As I mentioned, the only reason I like this sensor is b/c I have three other such equipped vehicles and this tool has paid for itself b/c I can configure the universal sensors for just about any vehicle equipped with TPMS. It's also helped me diagnose issues with learning sensor.
Thanks for the heads up, the Moresensor KX-S028 that I ordered states they are "Pre-programmed for 1997-2000 Corvette". So does that mean no tool is necessary to program them and they just have to be re-learned to the car? I did order the cheapest EL-50448 re-learn tool.
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For all intents and purposes there are really only two types of stems. Clamp-ins that are all aluminum, and pop-ins that will be black rubber (and flexible). If you can't wiggle the valve stem with moderate force, it's a clamp-in. Rubber stems will bend from the centrifugal force and are thus not recommended for speeds above ~115mph.

That RFA find is a very valuable piece of information to me. I'd always assumed the TPMS option was controlled by the BCM, but evidently it's an option in the RFA since that's all you changed. When I get around to experimenting on class2 (the network all the modules talk over) I'll have to look into this. For whatever reason (the prevailing opinion is economics) the Z's didn't get TPMS. Seems stupid, but the opinion is the non-Z cars all got run-flat tires, and the tire manufacturers recommended TPMS with their use. Whatever the case, it's a very useful feature for a track car. It would be even more useful if the tire temperatures were also reported. I put a cheap aftermarket setup in my C4 that shows temps and pressures for all 4 tires simultaneously on a little color LCD. For $40 including four sensors with replaceable batteries, I consider it to be "the shxt". If the suspension is setup with too much this or that, you'll see it in the tire temps.

I see you're in Navarre. We come down once or twice a year and stay just a few miles east on 98 on Okaloosa Island. If my salary had another decimal place in it we'd probably own property there.

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Old May 29, 2024 | 12:33 PM
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... the Moresensor KX-S028 that I ordered states they are "Pre-programmed for 1997-2000 Corvette". So does that mean no tool is necessary to program them and they just have to be re-learned to the car?
That's correct. Do everybody a solid and share where you found them pls!

I would do that type of thing myself but can't buy them anywhere near that price. Whoever's selling them pre-programmed for $22 must be buying the sensors by the tens of thousands.

Edit: Crap, I'm having a senior moment, I got the Moresensor confused with the SmartSensor. The latter is the one that's typically sold un-configured.

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I did order the cheapest EL-50448 re-learn tool.
Looks like the one.
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That's correct. Do everybody a solid and share where you found them pls!

I would do that type of thing myself but can't buy them anywhere near that price. Whoever's selling them pre-programmed for $22 must be buying the sensors by the tens of thousands.

Edit: Crap, I'm having a senior moment, I got the Moresensor confused with the SmartSensor. The latter is the one that's typically sold un-configured.



Looks like the one.
Hahaha, no problem. I purchased them on Amazon. As a matter of fact, I just got off the phone with their tech support, they answered very quickly, and confirmed they are Pre-programmed. He said the only thing needed was a scan tool to wake them up. I asked him if the EL-50448 would do that, but he wasn't sure. He said to try it or a tire center shop should be able to do it. I'll post as soon as I find out.
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This is what I ordered.
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Old May 29, 2024 | 01:03 PM
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Nevermind on sharing - looking on the big A, I'm seeing sets of 4 for 49.99 now for the older red/orange sensors. Prices have come down on these.
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Hello, any good advice would be warmly appreciated. Is there a proven replacement of the GM10316125 TPMS sensors? 2003 European C5. Does e.g. anybody know, whether the ACDELCO20807214 on this link will work on 2003? Or where to ask for help? 2003 CHEVROLET CORVETTE 5.7L V8 Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) Sensor | RockAuto

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spfautsch You mentioned that the Z’s didn’t come with TPMS. Can it be added with just installing sensors?
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Old May 30, 2024 | 10:37 AM
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Is there a proven replacement of the GM10316125 TPMS sensors? 2003 European C5.
I have no direct experience with VD1 or VE1 C5s, but any of the 433mhz sensors there should work for you. All the non-export C5s got 315mhz sensors.

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Can it be added with just installing sensors?
You would also have to enable the option with a Tech2 or something equivalent. As we were discussing just a few messages back, it appears this setting "lives" in the RFA module.
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Originally Posted by spfautsch
I have no direct experience with VD1 or VE1 C5s, but any of the 433mhz sensors there should work for you. All the non-export C5s got 315mhz sensors.
The issue is probably more complex. The tyre pressure monitoring system for 97-00 cars differs from the 01-04 C5s, and the latter further differs from the C6. All of them use 315 MHz for US cars and 433 for European ones. I do not want to spend money uselessly, therefore asking for real experience.
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Old May 30, 2024 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenyk
The issue is probably more complex.
Oh, I'm sure it is.

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The tyre pressure monitoring system for 97-00 cars differs from the 01-04 C5s
Correct. In 01 GM switched to a different RFA that used different keyfob protocols, and on the TPMS side switched to FSK modulation. As mentioned I have no direct experience, and my Smart Sensor tool lacks any option matrices for export C5s, but I'm a betting man and I'd lay dollars to donuts the export cars starting in '01 used 433mhz FSK modulation.

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, and the latter further differs from the C6.
This is the C5 forum. When I own a C6 or have the opportunity to work on one I'll re-write my brain dump. What's your point, because we're not talking about C6s here?

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All of them use 315 MHz for US cars and 433 for European ones. I do not want to spend money uselessly, therefore asking for real experience.
I completely sympathize, but unfortunately I have none to share. You can choose to either take the risk (and learn something) or not. Do you think I learned what I've shared here at zero personal expense?
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Solved. ACDELCO20807214, at Rockauto for USD83, is the right TPMS sensor for European C5 2001 - 2004. Installed, working.
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Old Jun 19, 2024 | 03:43 PM
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Excellent, thanks for posting an update!
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Although I have read through this thread several times now, still not sure if the EL-50448 (cheap TPMS tool on Amazon) will work on the Scharder 29179 wheel sensors for a '04.
Anyone have direct experience with these?
Discount tires wants $63 per sensor; Rockauto $23. Not trying to be cheap here, but 3x is a bit excessive.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 23, 2024 | 08:23 AM
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I'm 99.999% certain those sensors will work with the cheapo tool on Amazon. What I'm not certain about is if those sensors (sourced from RockAuto) are correctly configured as shipped. There was a recent thread on the subject, but I don't think the OP specified where he sourced the new sensors from. In the end he had to have a shop re-program them wirelessly before they would work. I'll see if I can locate it and update with a link.

Edit: Link - here. Noteworthy here is that his was a '99 and the Schrader sensors were 29178 which are physically the same as 29179 except configured for the earlier C5s. It's hard to tell exactly but I strongly suspect his mechanic had to re-configure them in order to get them working.

If you're not in a hurry, I'd be happy to buy one from RA and test it. I haven't relearned mine since the clutch / transmission / driveline rebuild so I need to do that anyway.

On the other hand, I have a complete set of the SmartSensor clamp-ins that are my personal favorite that I could send USPS for $130. Guaranteed to work, and should last longer than the Schraders. The only variable in question there is will USPS deliver them or lose them.

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Yeah I read that thread and like you stated, his was a '99...hence my question.
I am not in a real hurry, will be probably two weeks if not more before I am ready to get the new tires and sensors.
I assume these Smart Sensor clamp-ins are the metal stem? Might just get them...??? (I agree with USPS comment).
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Correct - "clamp-in" denotes aluminum stems w/ a nut. "Pop-in" denotes a rubber stem (not good at speeds > 120mph).

It makes me no difference, but I would appreciate recouping my initial investment in those sensors as I'm on vacation this week and my bank account is feeling the pain of "keeping momma happy". If you go that route I'll re-invest the difference in one of the Schrader sensors just to have first-hand knowledge.

Unrelated, but I just looked and it seems RA now has a modern 433mhz sensor (with pop-in stem) for the 01-04 euro / japan cars (VD1 / VE1). Ironically, it looks like it's one that's actually manufactured by Autel.
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I will just get them from you; that way I know they will work.
PM me the details about how you prefer payment and all that stuff, when you have a chance since you are on vacation!
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I will just get them from you; that way I know they will work.
PM me the details about how you prefer payment and all that stuff, when you have a chance since you are on vacation!
does anyone have a confirmed suitable trigger device? Having a hard time finding a confirmed one for a 2001 C5
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The vehicle you're using it for is irrelevant. The trigger device communicates with the sensors, not the vehicle. You're not going to find one that's "confirmed" to work with any C5 because they came from the factory with magnetically triggered sensors.

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