X pipe; do they work and which one?
Burning Brakes
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (Daryl)
No horsepower gain by adding the X-pipe? :confused:
If you look at the area under the curve, it looks like there may be no net HP gain, as there is actually a loss until 100 MPH. Also, this graph is for their full cat-back (including mufflers and X-pipe). This looks like the same graph they previously used for just the X-pipe ad. :confused:
As stated elsewhere, the X-pipe / H-pipe really needs to be located close to the exhaust manifolds / headers to get a major scavenging HP benefit (most X-pipes are located after the cats: not an optimal location for performance).
Get the X-pipe only for sound-change/popping reduction, not for performance. Also, keep in mind the X-pipe will reduce sound in some RPM ranges and increase sound in other RPM ranges (an X-pipe can in some cases increase resonance/howling).
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (Killrwheels)
Ok, I have the Performance Choice "Bold Sound" from Mid America and the A&A X-pipe. The X-pipe did nothing to reduce the popping noise with these pipes (practically straight through) but it did smooth out the WOT sound and make it more exotic sounding. These things are so loud that even the exotic sound is not objectionable to me. Kinda like a Ferrari with no mufflers.
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (Untouchable00)
If you got a bulge in your wallet we sell the Corsa,Bassani and all top brands for 249.00 which is a great price.If you want to save $$$$ I will make a brash statement (not my 1st) all X pipes are created =.The little 100.00 one isnt a slip fit it requires going up to Midas and it gets welded in instead of clamped.The welding process also insures a gas tight seal and they work beutiful.All us vendors have them we make more on Corsa and most charge 25-40.00 more than we do at Xtreme.
If we can help you with either call at 480-517-4969 and we would be happy to help or you can place orders on line.Dave S.
If we can help you with either call at 480-517-4969 and we would be happy to help or you can place orders on line.Dave S.
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one?
They all do the same thing. You pay for material, stainless or not and the ability to cut and clamp rather than weld.
We carry this one( I use it) and it works well.
Smooths idle, reduceds pop and gurgle on decel and knocks off maybe 10% WOT sound while giving you a few ponies and ft lbs of tq along the way.:)
RG
We carry this one( I use it) and it works well.
Smooths idle, reduceds pop and gurgle on decel and knocks off maybe 10% WOT sound while giving you a few ponies and ft lbs of tq along the way.:)
RG
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (RG in Dallas)
I was debating whether to get an X-pipe also, but I love the sound of the Stingers and like the popping and gurgling under deceleration, so think I am going to pass on them.
Although....after I get the TTS headers installed I may change my mind, but that is not likely.
Although....after I get the TTS headers installed I may change my mind, but that is not likely.
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (vetterdstr)
They do there job and IMHO all X pipes are created=.You can buy a Corsa,Bassni etc...For around 275.00 But for about 100.00 we at Xtreme have a weld on unit(better seal) and 175.00 cheaper.
The Corsa is a slip fit with clamps so unless you want to go to Midas and pay the 30-45.00 the more expensive 1's are the way to go.
We will match any price on the more expensive 1's but I highly recomend keep the 140 or so dollars in your mod savings,lots of toys for 140+ dollars.
I would try Mike At 480-517-4969 or Mike@xmotorsorts.com.
Mike is more than a certfied Tech he's also a mechanical engineer.Dave S.
The Corsa is a slip fit with clamps so unless you want to go to Midas and pay the 30-45.00 the more expensive 1's are the way to go.
We will match any price on the more expensive 1's but I highly recomend keep the 140 or so dollars in your mod savings,lots of toys for 140+ dollars.
I would try Mike At 480-517-4969 or Mike@xmotorsorts.com.
Mike is more than a certfied Tech he's also a mechanical engineer.Dave S.
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Re: X pipe; do they work and which one? (fdupny)
here is a video comparison I made of the non x-pipe vs x-pipe sound with loudmouths. .98 MB http://www.hypercon.net/~bcorin/lmcomp1.mpg
