COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (Dave68)
It appears the P1 is legal for cars through 2001. Technically, it's only certified with stock injectors, though. Seems weird.
You can drive with the radiator laid dow without the blower. It's no problem at all to do that. I'll have to send you the right radiator hoses first, that's all.
No tuner is included. But I do have a number of LS1 edit files that should be close, untill you get it dialed in. Or you could get MMS or Ed Wright to do it for you.
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 10:53 AM 10/24/2003]
You can drive with the radiator laid dow without the blower. It's no problem at all to do that. I'll have to send you the right radiator hoses first, that's all.
No tuner is included. But I do have a number of LS1 edit files that should be close, untill you get it dialed in. Or you could get MMS or Ed Wright to do it for you.
[Modified by Andy@AandACorvette, 10:53 AM 10/24/2003]
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (2C5only21)
Kaley
The Mag might be more prone to detonation due to it's increased bottom end torque. You would certainly have to use the new intercooled version. I should have some of them next week.
The P1SC with a 4.10 pulley should put you in the right boost range. What cam are you running. That will make a big difference.
The Mag might be more prone to detonation due to it's increased bottom end torque. You would certainly have to use the new intercooled version. I should have some of them next week.
The P1SC with a 4.10 pulley should put you in the right boost range. What cam are you running. That will make a big difference.
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (dads01dream)
1. Magnetic oil plug ~$2.65. Thx Danbury Chevy
2. Modified stock LS1 airbox lid ~$25.00. Thx King TUT
3. Gauge Bezels ~$169.00. Thx Vette Essentials AND Mike the creator!
4. Exhaust - GOT IT! Corsa Indy Pro Tips ~780.00. Thx T Bryne
5. Little Lift ~$50.00. Thx C5 Frederick
6. Ehaust Plate C5 Logo ~$85.00. Thx RG @ Exit 28
7. Trac Active Controller Deluxe ~$155.00. Thx Trac Active
8. Third brake light flasher ~$75.00. Thx LAPD
9. Rocker & Frame Rail Savers ~$99.00 Thx A&A
10. Insulation to sound proof ~$125.00 Thx Home Depot
11. The PREDATOR (* LOVIN' IT *) ~$425.00 Thx BfB
2. Modified stock LS1 airbox lid ~$25.00. Thx King TUT
3. Gauge Bezels ~$169.00. Thx Vette Essentials AND Mike the creator!
4. Exhaust - GOT IT! Corsa Indy Pro Tips ~780.00. Thx T Bryne
5. Little Lift ~$50.00. Thx C5 Frederick
6. Ehaust Plate C5 Logo ~$85.00. Thx RG @ Exit 28
7. Trac Active Controller Deluxe ~$155.00. Thx Trac Active
8. Third brake light flasher ~$75.00. Thx LAPD
9. Rocker & Frame Rail Savers ~$99.00 Thx A&A
10. Insulation to sound proof ~$125.00 Thx Home Depot
11. The PREDATOR (* LOVIN' IT *) ~$425.00 Thx BfB
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (Terry Burger)
Gee Terry,
It takes a big man to make a stupid comment like yours! :rolleyes:
Plenty of people on this forum list their mods for a variety of reasons - I guess you have nothing better to do with your time than to make a lame post like yours concerning my meager list.
Now perhaps we can get back on subject with Andy. :cheers:
It takes a big man to make a stupid comment like yours! :rolleyes:
Plenty of people on this forum list their mods for a variety of reasons - I guess you have nothing better to do with your time than to make a lame post like yours concerning my meager list.
Now perhaps we can get back on subject with Andy. :cheers:
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (Andy@AandACorvette)
Hey Andy,
I'm wondering about something. Did you flow test the plumbing or the FMIC by itself? I'm thinking about flow numbers for cylinder head ports, then x by 8 for head flow, do all components in the intake have to flow the same, or is there some loss calculated in before it gets to the intake ports? I'm sure your setup flows way better than the ATI twin, I'm curious if you've found restrictions by actually flowing it.
I'm wondering about something. Did you flow test the plumbing or the FMIC by itself? I'm thinking about flow numbers for cylinder head ports, then x by 8 for head flow, do all components in the intake have to flow the same, or is there some loss calculated in before it gets to the intake ports? I'm sure your setup flows way better than the ATI twin, I'm curious if you've found restrictions by actually flowing it.
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (Andy@AandACorvette)
Andy, I am interested in your SC package. Few questions I have before I pull the trigger. First, my '03 Z is equipped with FFS. Have you found a suitable and reliable way to handle this fuel system? Second, living in Los Angeles, emission legal is important to me. Does that mean Vortech is the only choice of blower for me now? How's your Vortech package compare with this redesigned Procharger package in term of performance, reliability and price? Thank you.
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (atz06)
The Vortech is the only one that is technically smog legal. It's definateley more expensive but works just fine. I've done quite a few of them.
To answer the question about flow testing the intercooler and plumbing. No I haven't. It has 3" plumbing to the intercooler and a 4" outlet to the MAF. It has the least amount of restriction that I could come up with.
The new fuel system is OK to a little over 500 RWHP with a Kenne Bell Boost A Pump. I have an 03 Z06 that's making 570 with a D1. I took off the in line pump and return system that I had built just for curiosity. Without the Boost A Pump the pressure just tailed off and I had to lift. With the Boost A Pump it dropped to 50 and held. I'm going to put the pump back in and run the return line directly into the fuel pump "bucket" via a bulkhead fitting at the top of the sender. My other system supported the power, but after the tank got below half, it would run the bucket dry and drop pressure. This should fix it for the guys wanting more than 500 RWHP.
To answer the question about flow testing the intercooler and plumbing. No I haven't. It has 3" plumbing to the intercooler and a 4" outlet to the MAF. It has the least amount of restriction that I could come up with.
The new fuel system is OK to a little over 500 RWHP with a Kenne Bell Boost A Pump. I have an 03 Z06 that's making 570 with a D1. I took off the in line pump and return system that I had built just for curiosity. Without the Boost A Pump the pressure just tailed off and I had to lift. With the Boost A Pump it dropped to 50 and held. I'm going to put the pump back in and run the return line directly into the fuel pump "bucket" via a bulkhead fitting at the top of the sender. My other system supported the power, but after the tank got below half, it would run the bucket dry and drop pressure. This should fix it for the guys wanting more than 500 RWHP.
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (vetterdstr)
Gorgeous setup Andy. It looks like you are using two of the 10x10x3.5 in Spearco cores together. If so, this IC should flow over 2,200 CFM with negligible pressure drop. Lets jst say that, it'll outflow the air filter.
My only comment is that it would actually be better, IMO, to place the BOV closer to the throttle plate, on the pipe between the TB and the IC. The reason is that it will do a better job of cancelling the shockwave which emanantes backwards from the throttle plate when it slams shut, and protects the IC welds as well as the compressor.
My only comment is that it would actually be better, IMO, to place the BOV closer to the throttle plate, on the pipe between the TB and the IC. The reason is that it will do a better job of cancelling the shockwave which emanantes backwards from the throttle plate when it slams shut, and protects the IC welds as well as the compressor.
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (TTRotary)
...to place the BOV closer to the throttle plate, on the pipe between the TB and the IC...
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (blu00rdstr)
Interesting. I had it installed after the IC on my 3rd Gen RX-7 and had no such problems. Maybe I just got lucky.
Yes, definitely not after the MAF/MAP sensor :eek: :eek:
Yes, definitely not after the MAF/MAP sensor :eek: :eek:
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (TTRotary)
Andy-
Not only does this thing look terrific in its own right, but when you factor in the hood and the extra ~$1500 for the intercooled version, this gives the new Magnuson some VERY stiff competition in terms of both design and value! Problem is, I am about as far from your shop as I can get and still be on the same planet...........
[Modified by George Cooper, 8:23 PM 10/29/2003]
Not only does this thing look terrific in its own right, but when you factor in the hood and the extra ~$1500 for the intercooled version, this gives the new Magnuson some VERY stiff competition in terms of both design and value! Problem is, I am about as far from your shop as I can get and still be on the same planet...........
[Modified by George Cooper, 8:23 PM 10/29/2003]
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (George Cooper)
Andy-
Not only does this thing look terrific in its own right, but when you factor in the hood and the ~$1500 for the intercooled version, this gives the new Magnuson some VERY stiff competition in terms of both design and value!
Not only does this thing look terrific in its own right, but when you factor in the hood and the ~$1500 for the intercooled version, this gives the new Magnuson some VERY stiff competition in terms of both design and value!
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (George Cooper)
andy, i'm with george. he is about 15 miles from me and 3000 miles from you. its sunny here on the sc coast, how about opening up a shop here in charleston. you have at least 2 customers waiting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: COMPLETELY redesigned supercharger system- Pics inside (ChasNMe)
Couple Questions for you Andy:
- is a similar setup using a Vortech head unit in the works?
- do you have any clients road racing with these (or similar FMIC'd) setups? Does the FMIC cause any overheating problems?
- would the Halltech style front-license-plate grille help with airflow to the intake/radiator/IC with this configuration?
Cheers!
-Jake
- is a similar setup using a Vortech head unit in the works?
- do you have any clients road racing with these (or similar FMIC'd) setups? Does the FMIC cause any overheating problems?
- would the Halltech style front-license-plate grille help with airflow to the intake/radiator/IC with this configuration?
Cheers!
-Jake