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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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My new single intercooler system is a complete redesign pretty much from thr ground up. I'm making my own bracket and pulley system, available in six and 8 rib. Take a close look at the bracket. The tensioner is right at the crank pulley. The longest run of belt between the crank pulley and blower pulley is about 6". The inlet is now 4" mandrel bent, bead rolled, steel tubing. Silicone couplers and Heavy duty band clamps asuure that the hoses can't blow off. I now use a custom made sheet metal intercooler made to my specs. I've made the intercooler taller, thicker, but not as wide. This allows more air to the radiator and allows more room for the air filter and duct. It has a 4" outlet to match the tubing. The MAF is also relocated away from the turbulence coming out of the intercooler. The air has a smooth inlet to the MAF.
The P1SC will come with a Bosch blowoff valve.
. Notice the nipple on the tube just below the blower. This is for the Blowoff valve. It will also come with a 6 rib setup , new tensioner, and 42# injectors. All necessary radiator hoses etc. will be included. The introductory price for the whole system will be $4995
The D1 will come with a flange welded to that same tube and a Vortech Pro billet blowoff valve. It will also come with an ATI performance 8 rib damper and all new 8 rib pulleys , new tensioner, Reichard Racing Ultra Grip pulley. This will be the ultimate blower setup for those looking for 600 RWHP+.
This setup will be $6295. Of course you can upgrade the P1SC to 8 rib, if you like. It's $1095 to upgrade. Or you can get the D1 with a six rib and Bosch BOV for $4995. I suggest the upgrades for the D1, however.
Let me know what you think and if there is anything you would like to see added or changed. All these new changes are a direct result of feedback from you guys. Criticism is welcome, also. ( to a point :D )
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/aan...C/mvc-007f.jpg
http://temp.corvetteforum.net./c5/aandacorvette//newSIC/mvc-002f.jpg


http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c5/aan...C/mvc-003f.jpg


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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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First pic doesn't work. :smash:
Second pic looks good, nothing like a nice even flow path :steering:
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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There are supposed to be 4 pictures. I have no idea why they don't come up.
I'm trying to figure it out.
Well somebody got two of them.
Thanks Racer 44

Still can't figure out what I did wrong. :mad


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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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http://temp.corvetteforum.net./c5/aa...C/mvc-002f.jpg
should work.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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That's sweet Andy! I have to seriously consider the belt setup since my goal is 12-15psi, more if possible.

*I also moved my BOV from the next to the IC to directly after the blower. I couldn't access the BOV in the nose. *I found the hose clamps needed upgrading also to withstand the torque of tightening them enough. *Good move to attach the mounting straps to the blower, the J-hook straps always seem to sag.

The first-generation IC has small inlet and outlet. I think it's 2 1/2". Please let us first-gen customers know if there's a trade-in program...

Suggestion 1: Weld the three lower pipes into one, and the four lower hoses then become two. Cheaper and more bullet-proof. My lower hose came off once and it dragged under the car.

Suggestion 2: Metal pipe for the blower intake. The plastic bridge rubs and raises the right-front corner of the hood.

Suggestion/question 3: Would it be easier to pipe into the IC from the passenger side? The drivers side has the power steering and active handling doo-hickey in the way.

Suggestion 4: Upgrade program. ATI stock to SIC kit. A&A v1.0 SIC to latest version + 8-rib.


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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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The BOV next to the blower is definately an improvement. Easier access and it actually works better there. Also it's a bit quieter up there.
Answer to question 1; I like the 3 piece method. It gives you adjustability and is much easier to install. With the upgraded clamps, there should be no issues with hoses blowing. It'll blow the MAF in half first!
Answer to question 2: The air bridge in the picture is actually not the one I'm going to use. The Halltech air bridge is narrower and doesn't rub on the hood. I'm having Jim make me some without the logo.
Answer to question 3: I think this side is best. THe ABS box isn't really a problem. The other side would mean a U turn in the plumbing and interference with the air filter.
If there's interest in an upgrade program, I'll work on some prices.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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I thought that drastically moving (repostioning the MAF) was an issue?

What about ground clearance issues with the larger diameter piping? I know with the normal setup from ATI it was just plain nasty. Especially for the folks with lowered cars....

Looks like an awesome setup...best one I have seen yet!

For my last question......it would seem that installation time would be cut in half, but with that new bracket, how difficult would you say to install? Any thing need to be removed for it to fit (besides the tensioner)?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:35 AM
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Nice work Andy!! You should sell your design BACK to ATI so they can benefit from YOUR research and development. Seriously!! :yesnod: You have my upmost respect for your hard work redesigning products and making them better for us. Heres to you!! :cheers: :cheers:
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:36 AM
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BTW,

How exactly is that intercooler mounted? Any pics of one mounted on a car?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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No ground clearance problems at all. It's all higher than the subframe. The bulkhead in front of the tire is trimmed a little and that's about it.
The bracket will come assembled with a new tensioner already mounted. It's very simple. The plumbing is obviously simpler than the twins.
The MAF gets a lot of turbulence coming out of the intercooler. It's better here. The tuning is a little different, though.
See those two tabs on the intercooler? They just bolt to the front frame member where the stock air box mounted. They just need to be drilled. Once the plumbing is tight, it almost doesnt need mounts
I'll get some pictures of this setup mounted on a car shortly.


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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 12:54 AM
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Seems like a sweet deal. I may reconsider belt driven forced induction :)
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:04 AM
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That setup is a beaut, amazing a guy in his garage had to come up with a system that works for a large factory with a hugh staff and apparently no imagination or motivation==great job andy before this is overwith I will bolting this stuff on the stroker though I swore I was going NA permantly--
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:36 AM
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Looks good!! Is the blow through MAF hard to tune for?
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If there's interest in an upgrade program, I'll work on some prices.
Looks GREAT Andy. I'm very intersted in an upgrade price. What would it take to bring a stock P1SC kit up to your specs?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 07:59 AM
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:cool: Looks good Andy! :cheers:
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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I would like a price on upgrading all the rubber hoses to silicon and new clamps.

VR :cheers:
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Nice work Andy!! You should sell your design BACK to ATI so they can benefit from YOUR research and development. Seriously!! :yesnod: You have my upmost respect for your hard work redesigning products and making them better for us. Heres to you!! :cheers: :cheers:

Well Said!!! :iagree: :thumbs:
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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Simply amazing package Andy.

Can you give us details on what we can expect with each package bolting it to a basically stock LS1. Ball park HP / TQ numbers would be great. Also what upgrades to do you recommend in addition to your package?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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Will this work on a complete stock ls1, if not what needs to be changed? Looks Sweet
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